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Old 01-11-23 | 05:58 AM
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Frame Identification, again

Hiya Folks,
spotted this on Ebay for cheap as it's got a stuck stem and it's local.
Looks like 60's - no built in hanger - and I think the frame number should be recognisable, but it's been repainted.

BB is Campy 1.37" x 24tpi
Headset is Shimano 105
No idea what the tubing is or if the fork is original.




Frame number:



Rear dropouts:


Headtube:





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Old 01-11-23 | 07:30 AM
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Have you checked the Asian Serial # guide? That's what the serial number looks like to me.

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Old 01-11-23 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by seypat
Have you checked the Asian Serial # guide? That's what the serial number looks like to me.

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Yep I was thinking that frame number looks quite distinctive.
I had a look at the asian guide after I posted since the serial number reminded me of something I'd seen.
Closest in there is

S(3) (Japan): sMyxxxxx [but that would be month code 'Y']
S(4)
(Japan): Sy mm xxxx(x) [y = 'Y', month = '87']
SANKI (Japan): Symmxxxx

But the serial number on this frame seems to be "SY87050058" which is at least 1 digit too long.
The only codes that might fit are

SFxxxxxxxx [F = fortnight alpha character = 'Y']
SMxxxxxxxx [M = month character = 'Y' - nope]
SYxxxxxxxx [Y = year alpha character = 'Y']

But I don't see them in that list.
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Old 01-11-23 | 08:45 AM
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Got no input as to the maker or year, but looks rather entry-level, (rear dropouts and lugs). It is plausibly of Asian manufacture from the 80s.
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I'm wondering, the fork looks to have forged tips with lips, and stamped dropouts.
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Old 01-13-23 | 09:59 AM
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I'm wondering, the fork looks to have forged tips with lips, and stamped dropouts.
That caught my eye as well. Possibly a replacement?
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