C&V Terminator
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C&V Terminator
The year is 2023, and the AIs are about to take over the world. But you have a crucial mission: go back in time and snuff out one piece of cycling technology so that it never makes it into the future. What is your target?
#6
Senior Member



Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,169
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From: SF Bay Area, East bay
Bikes: Miyata 618 GT, Marinoni, Kestral 200, Soma double cross 2002 Trek 5200, KHS Flite, Koga Miyata, Schwinn Spitfire 5, Mondia Special, Univega Alpina, Miyata team Ti, Santa Cruz Highball, Waterford rs11
Long pull brakes.
#7
Senior Member


Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 917
Likes: 472
From: Los Banos, CA
Bikes: 2020 Argon 18 Krypton Pro, 1985 Masi 3V Volumetrica, 1985 3Rensho Super Record Aero, 1989 Colnago 1989 XL, 2022 Trek District 4.
Shimano' push-pull solid wire set up with the front freewheeling. They were hard to set up, and thankfully, I didn't have to service many. Mostly came on BSOs, and people never brought those in for service, until the seat tube separated from the top it the bottom bracket!
#8
Senior Member




Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 16,083
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From: PDX
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
#10
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Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 16,083
Likes: 9,441
From: PDX
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
#11
Junior Member


Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 105
Likes: 83
From: Saint Paul, MN & Clear Lake, IA
Bikes: CBT Italia, 73 Peugeot, Gary Fisher Joshua, John Deere custom hybrid, K2 EasyRider, Yakota tandem, Pinarello Montello, Colnago Mexico, Gitane Tandem
I have a couple of those…in my bins.
#12
Junior Member


Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 105
Likes: 83
From: Saint Paul, MN & Clear Lake, IA
Bikes: CBT Italia, 73 Peugeot, Gary Fisher Joshua, John Deere custom hybrid, K2 EasyRider, Yakota tandem, Pinarello Montello, Colnago Mexico, Gitane Tandem
It would have to be reflectors on BMX bikes.
#15
Crawlin' up, flyin' down


Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,726
Likes: 4,374
From: Democratic Peoples' Republic of Berkeley
Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.
Modern four-arm cranksets. Fugly. Just plain fugly.
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Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 16,083
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From: PDX
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
#17
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Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 16,083
Likes: 9,441
From: PDX
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
#18
Master Parts Rearranger

Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,842
Likes: 2,788
From: Portlandia's Kuiper Belt, OR
Bikes: 1987 Woodrup Competition - 2025 Trek Checkpoint SL 6 Gen 3 - 1987 Lotus Legend - 2024 Trek Emonda ALR Rim Brake - 1980 Trek 510 - 1988 Cannondale SR500 - 1985 Trek 670 - 1982 Trek 730
#20
Freewheel Medic



Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,552
Likes: 3,293
From: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)

Clincher cross section schematic with 1: rim, 2: rim strip, 3: rim braking surface, 4: bead core, 5: inner tube, 6: casing, 7: tread (source: Wikipedia)
Tubulars Rule!
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Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
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Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
#22
Señor Member



Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 18,463
Likes: 1,554
From: Hardy, VA
Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs
I can't tell you whether I think the bicycle design, the motorcycle design, or the entire concept is what I think is stupidest about stayer/derney racing.


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In search of what to search for.
#23
Senior Member


Joined: Mar 2021
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From: Beaverton, OR
Bikes: You had me at rusty and Italian!!
#24
I grew up in the 80s and all I knew were the 5-arm cranks. Just about all the “youngsters” that ride with love the 4-arm cranks and want nothing to do with the 5-arm. I was this close to buying the later 4-arm Campy 11-speed and just couldn’t do it. Found a nice 5-arm SR and am so glad I did. It just looks ‘right’.
#25
Bike Butcher of Portland


Joined: Jul 2014
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From: Portland, OR
Bikes: It's complicated.
Lawyer Lips. It's damn near impossible to buy front QR dropouts without them.
Here's a recycled post:
I've filed off my share of lawyer lips, and I'll do it again. What's odd is that the tab style double eyelet dropout that Framebuilder supply sells has them. You're building a fork from scratch and your customer needs lawyer lips?
I buy them because they're inexpensive, locally stocked, have double eyelets...but lawyer lips? They file off easily, but it's annoying!
Here's a recycled post:
I've filed off my share of lawyer lips, and I'll do it again. What's odd is that the tab style double eyelet dropout that Framebuilder supply sells has them. You're building a fork from scratch and your customer needs lawyer lips?

I buy them because they're inexpensive, locally stocked, have double eyelets...but lawyer lips? They file off easily, but it's annoying!
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