Mad Honk 

Absolutely not! The extra material will help keep the dropout from failing again. This one is going to be a rider and not a beauty queen. I would rather have the security of the extra steel than the pretty looks of another potential failure. If the aesthetics were that important I would have sent it to Doug Fatic for a dropout replacement. I am fairly confident in the weld area that has been repaired. The welding was done in the shop where a race care I sponsor resides and has been a proven winner in the Super Stock category. The stress put on the frame of that car has withstood two years of abuse and I would not hesitate to get behind the wheel for yet another race. Pretty is not the same as functional. By putting a bit more metal ln the drop out it will be stronger. Just my stoopid Dave logic. Smiles, MH
PS. When the paint gets on it no one is gonna notice the difference. and if they do what will I care if I feel safer riding it.

Mad Honk 

A week of non-bike work has kept the Loto on a back burner. So tonight I found out it is trying to quit, and will go on the "Patch", to help in the process. Rust is not a welcome thing here in Honk Land, and the "Patch" is gonna be helpful in localizing the rust remediation. Smiles, MH

The "Patch" applied to the area where the Loto is trying to quit rusting. I can't tell what caused the damage, but I suspect it was likely done with a Brian wind trainer clamp.
The patch is soaked in Oxalic acid solution and should reduce the rust to the point I can put a coat of primer on the remediated area.

Mad Honk 

Success! "The patch" worked and the Loto has quit rusting the tubes at the bottom bracket. A small bit of cleaning and touch up paint can be applied. Next will be a few spots under he bottom bracket. Smiles, MH

The seat tube de-rusted and ready for some touch up paint.

The down tube rust is gone as well. The OA patch method is a good solution to getting the OA localized to just the damaged area.

Mad Honk 

The Loto has decided to take a bath, but tub is a bit on the small side. It is currently soaking in the solution designed to make it feel free. Free of rust that is! I am thinking it will stay overnight to clean up years of rust accumulation on the underside of the bottom bracket. The price on this one was pretty right, so I m going to do a bit of extra work to get things closer to correct for the build. Every time I look I see more signs of being ridden hard and put away wet. So sad cause it is a nice frame set.

I am being a bit of a cheapskate but the damage didn't need a big pan of Oxalic acid so the hand cleaner container wins the day.

Just the right amount of clearance for the acid bath after a bit of trimming on the container. I am not going to have a large amount of acid to dispose of after the treatment.
The frame is going to get a bunch of touch upon the rear chain-stays, but it is from a lot of chain damage to the right stay. When I am done I think it will be a rider that is reasonably presentable. Smiles, MH

Mad Honk 

After 24 hours in the spa, the bottom bracket lost a bunch of accumulated rust has melted away creating a dark yellow solution of Oxalic Acid with rust infused. The damage seems to have been mitigated for a while. I can't say it won't come back, but after a bit of cleaning it is ready for a coat of primer. Some pictures:

After a wash with clear water, the rust is pretty much removed from the affected areas.

A bit of wire brush work on the rust and oxidize area has the BB clean enough to give it some primer coat for the time being.

All dressed up for the painting party. I did a pretty aggressive wire brushing with the Dremel to get down to bare metal. and ready for the primer

After the primer coat. There will be sanding and feathering of damaged areas elsewhere on the stays, with the ultimate goal of an under-coat of silver and then clear blue to get to a color match to the rest of the frame.
Smiles, MH

9volt 

I'm in Wisconsin - Shop Dog Cycle

Glad to see that Basso getting the help it needs to get back on the road. I almost didn't post it.

smontanaro 

Thanks. I was curious because there was a framebuilder in Highland Park IL named (I think) Shop Dog Cycles. Any relation?

9volt 

No relation, just similar names. We also have the same first name which probably doesn't help differentiate between the two

Joseph steel 

Hello and good evening all,
I just purchased a Basso frame and am having a hard time figuring out what model it is? It seems to be a Loto frame however the frame seems to have been painted over. The frame has a lot of the characteristics of the loto. the serial number is 809033.It is a 56.5 frame according to the marking on the bottom bracket by the serial number. If anyone can help I would appreciate it.

Steel Charlie

I have a 54cm Lotto with that paint scheme in green. Really fragile paint. Gonna get some touchuping and then a heavy clear coat. Then finally into the workstand and built.

Joseph steel 

Hello and good evening Steel Charlie,
The frame that I purchased is also a green one. I am new to the forum so I cannot post photos till I have like ten post.

jdawginsc 

You can upload them into your picture gallery I think, and someone can post them for you.

Joseph steel 

ok thanks again for your help. I will try that and see if it works.

xiaoman1 

Hi, Your questions would be better answered by starting your own thread and not tagging on to an existing one.....
Best Ben