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nlerner 08-20-23 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 22989551)
Congrats.
You know, my fantasy for if I ever win the lottery involves me keeping working, but just with a lot less stress (as university faculty always scrambling for grants, I could just self-fund research into what I really find interesting and not worry about the next funding cycle or having enough money to pay publication costs), but I don't know if I would really do that if I had the money. Good thing I don't have to worry about it because I don't play the lotto. On the other hand, I can totally see myself retiring as soon as I'm eligible and have enough saved up if I don't have "eff you" lotto money that would bring the freedom to ignore my bosses or tell them exactly what I think of their "brilliant" ideas to reinvigorate the university.

I hear you. And I spent the last four years as a department chair, which made the possibility of retirement all that much sweeter. Fortunately I’m not dependent on soft money, but still I’m in a field (English) that’s getting increasingly marginalized if not eliminated altogether. Higher ed is changing rapidly, which for me makes the imperative to leave it behind that much stronger.

himespau 08-20-23 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22990031)
I hear you. And I spent the last four years as a department chair, which made the possibility of retirement all that much sweeter. Fortunately I’m not dependent on soft money, but still I’m in a field (English) that’s getting increasingly marginalized if not eliminated altogether. Higher ed is changing rapidly, which for me makes the imperative to leave it behind that much stronger.

In my field (Biology), my biggest contribution to the university is teaching (easily $3-400,000 last year) but I'm mainly evaluated on how many grant dollars I bring in because the university feels that anyone they slap in could teach those students (even as they give me awards for my teaching). I'm afraid that, at some point, they're going to take my lecture recordings and say, "we have these, we no longer need you if we can hire an adjunct to grade your assignments for cheaper." Especially since I'm non-tenure track (my wife, in the same department but tenured and who they really want to keep provides me with some job security). Really hope I hit retirement before that happens.

nlerner 08-20-23 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 22990045)
In my field (Biology), my biggest contribution to the university is teaching (easily $3-400,000 last year) but I'm mainly evaluated on how many grant dollars I bring in because the university feels that anyone they slap in could teach those students (even as they give me awards for my teaching). I'm afraid that, at some point, they're going to take my lecture recordings and say, "we have these, we no longer need you if we can hire an adjunct to grade your assignments for cheaper." Especially since I'm non-tenure track (my wife, in the same department but tenured and who they really want to keep provides me with some job security). Really hope I hit retirement before that happens.

Oh, man, you’re NTT AND you need to secure external funding?! That just ain’t right. FWIW, I’ve occupied just about every rank other than postdoc: 8 years as a part-time adjunct, 9 years full-time NTT, the last 12 years in the tenure stream, promoted to full six years ago (i.e., I’ve hit the ceiling of my salary range!). The last certainly is the most privileged, but I’m not sure I’ll look back at those years as the ones where I was happiest. Yeah, it’s complicated but a far better way to make a living than many alternatives. BTW, my wife is a biologist and an academic, so I know very well what the never-ending search for external funding looks like. Hang in there!

gugie 08-20-23 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22990090)
...I’m not sure I’ll look back at those years as the ones where I was happiest.

Well, there are all of those bike tours we've done together. I'm sure a good part of the reason we do them is to keep our sanity and forget, if just for a few days, the work we needed to get back to.

nlerner 08-20-23 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by gugie (Post 22990228)
Well, there are all of those bike tours we've done together. I'm sure a good part of the reason we do them is to keep our sanity and forget, if just for a few days, the work we needed to get back to.

For sure! I work to ride.

mhespenheide 08-20-23 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22990090)
I know very well what the never-ending search for external funding looks like. Hang in there!

Honestly, the constant need to secure outside grants is what drove me away from Academia. I switched tracks, stopped at a Master's, and stepped down to teach high school instead. While it's had its own issues, I genuinely like my job most of the time. Or at least I enjoy the actual teaching. We start meetings tomorrow, though, and the summer off has been just wonderful. Back to work and stealing short rides when I can squeeze them in!

Reynolds 08-20-23 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by gugie (Post 22988405)
After 33 years in the semiconductor industry, I've finally hit the finish line. I've been joking with [MENTION=170517]rccardr[/MENTION] that he's my hero and I hate him - he's been retired since I've known him, and shows up to cycling events all over the country - damn I've been jealous! Doc, I don't hate you anymore :D.

More time with my wife, more time in the Atelier, and more time to ride.

Congrats, Maître Gugie!

rccardr 08-20-23 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22990324)
For sure! I work to ride.

And, I know for a fact that you ride to work.

northbend 08-20-23 08:00 PM

Congratulations Mark. The best is yet to come. No more waiting till the weekend or vacation to do that next ride/tour.

Repack Rider 08-21-23 04:00 PM

Sine I retired, there is no longer a clock in my bedroom.

bulgie 08-21-23 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by northbend (Post 22990661)
Congratulations Mark. The best is yet to come. No more waiting till the weekend or vacation to do that next ride/tour.

Weekends are annoying to me now. Seems I'm always wanting to go somewhere, and then I remember they're closed weekends. Even some bike shops are closed Sundays — how dare they, going for rides with their friends, when I want to come kick the tires, ask them questions, not buy anything, and then go buy it on the web. Hrrumpf. I think this "day off" thing is dangerous and probably a commie plot.

clubman 08-21-23 06:47 PM

Congrats gugie! Have fun with the freedom.
I can smell retirement coming on but can't quite see it.

nlerner 08-21-23 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 22991696)
Congrats gugie! Have fun with the freedom.
I can smell retirement coming on but can't quite see it.

Hmm, what does it smell like?

clubman 08-21-23 07:56 PM

We detected a little Paella but maybe it was a fish market near Bari on the Adriatic. Or Brittany...

Lascauxcaveman 08-21-23 11:38 PM

...and I do hope you're not retiring your torch, [MENTION=381793]gugie[/MENTION]. I've got this great frame just itching for 650b changes, custom racks, centerpull studs, extra bottle cage bosses, etc etc etc that will absolutely require your ministrations very soon :)

jdawginsc 08-22-23 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by mhespenheide (Post 22990385)
Honestly, the constant need to secure outside grants is what drove me away from Academia. I switched tracks, stopped at a Master's, and stepped down to teach high school instead. While it's had its own issues, I genuinely like my job most of the time. Or at least I enjoy the actual teaching. We start meetings tomorrow, though, and the summer off has been just wonderful. Back to work and stealing short rides when I can squeeze them in!

Today is the last day before students come back and it feels weird to not have to go back to those meetings and new directives and administrative arrogance-entitlement...!

Pompiere 08-22-23 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by bulgie (Post 22991661)
Weekends are annoying to me now. Seems I'm always wanting to go somewhere, and then I remember they're closed weekends. Even some bike shops are closed Sundays — how dare they, going for rides with their friends, when I want to come kick the tires, ask them questions, not buy anything, and then go buy it on the web. Hrrumpf. I think this "day off" thing is dangerous and probably a commie plot.

One of the few benefits of shift work was having days off during the week. I had access to doctor appointments, store hours, kids' school events, smaller crowds, etc. The down side was working a lot of weekends, when the everyone else had their events. I missed out on a lot of group rides over the years because my schedule didn't align with the right weekend. Thankfully, that is all behind me now. :D

gugie 08-22-23 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Pompiere (Post 22992014)
One of the few benefits of shift work was having days off during the week. :D

Pne of the benefits of retirement is being able to ride with people that have to work weekends!

gugie 08-22-23 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 22991825)
...and I do hope you're not retiring your torch, [MENTION=381793]gugie[/MENTION]. I've got this great frame just itching for 650b changes, custom racks, centerpull studs, extra bottle cage bosses, etc etc etc that will absolutely require your ministrations very soon :)

One of the big reasons to retire for me is more time for torch work!

jon c. 08-22-23 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Repack Rider (Post 22991557)
Sine I retired, there is no longer a clock in my bedroom.


Neither me, but it doesn't really matter as I have cats who remind me that it's time for breakfast.

northbend 08-22-23 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by bulgie (Post 22991661)
Weekends are annoying to me now. Seems I'm always wanting to go somewhere, and then I remember they're closed weekends. Even some bike shops are closed Sundays — how dare they, going for rides with their friends, when I want to come kick the tires, ask them questions, not buy anything, and then go buy it on the web. Hrrumpf. I think this "day off" thing is dangerous and probably a commie plot.

Weekends are the opposite of what they were when I was working. I avoid going out on weekends. It's too crowded. I'll stay at or stick close to home nowadays.

smontanaro 08-22-23 12:30 PM

Interesting about weekends. I often ride with a group on Sundays, [MENTION=168417]Chicago Al[/MENTION] is one of the regulars, along the Lakefront to McCormick Place and then to Hyde Park. I much prefer riding on city streets instead of the Lakefront Trail. So much more peaceful.

DiegoFrogs 08-22-23 03:57 PM

Congratulations!

I'm curious about how the ebb-and-flow of the industry has affected you over the years. I've worked in the same or related industries over the years, sometimes even in R&D focused startups, with disastrous results in my personal and financial life.

For about a year and a half I've had a low-stress gig that definitely skews hard towards the personal life side, so maybe a decade of burning the candle at both ends only to find unemployment is finally coming to an end...

Jeff Wills 08-22-23 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by jon c. (Post 22992065)
Neither me, but it doesn't really matter as I have cats who remind me that it's time for breakfast.

Yeah… one of the things keeping me and my wife from retiring is the fact that we still need to be home (usually) to feed the cats. We’ll get there, though.

How could you say “no” to this guy?


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santa fe 2926 08-22-23 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Pompiere (Post 22992014)
One of the few benefits of shift work was having days off during the week. I had access to doctor appointments, store hours, kids' school events, smaller crowds, etc. The down side was working a lot of weekends, when the everyone else had their events. I missed out on a lot of group rides over the years because my schedule didn't align with the right weekend. Thankfully, that is all behind me now. :D

sounds like 38 years on the railroad. Extra Board, Tuesday Wednesday days off and years on the afternoon shift.


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