Need Help with Gianni Motta frame ID
11-11-23, 02:17 PM
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Need Help with Gianni Motta frame ID
Hi everyone,
Im buying a second hand Gianni Motta frame and would love if anybody had any information on the year or model.
Cant post pictures just yet but Will do ASAP.
Thanks in Advance !
Im buying a second hand Gianni Motta frame and would love if anybody had any information on the year or model.
Cant post pictures just yet but Will do ASAP.
Thanks in Advance !
11-11-23, 02:59 PM
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Before you make the 10 post minimum you can upload images to your gallery on your profile and someone can give you a pic assist.
11-11-23, 03:22 PM
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11-11-23, 05:51 PM
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*Edit* It's very hard to see in these pics but I'm pretty sure I see cheap steel brake calipers, a steel cottered crank and stamped dropouts but better pics will tell the truth. Front wheel looks like it is mounted with nuts and not a quickrelease lever.
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11-11-23, 05:53 PM
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^ This.
What I can see of the rear dropout looks really suspect.
What I can see of the rear dropout looks really suspect.
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11-11-23, 06:00 PM
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11-11-23, 06:09 PM
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cranks don't line up. Stem way past min insertion point. Cheap saddle slammed.
G.M. have panto on the frame on the seat-stay eyes, by the BB and headset, plus forks.
G.M. have panto on the frame on the seat-stay eyes, by the BB and headset, plus forks.
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Fkirschfink, forum members are only allowed to have one account. Earlier today we deleted your 4 junk posts so you now have 4 more posts that you can make.
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Hi Everybody !
I aprecciate your help very much. I created another user so I could post today (I'm new on the Forum, made more than 5 post's and didn't want to wait until tomorrow).
I have gotten more pictures of the Bike and have uploaded the available images both in this profile's gallery, and in fkirschfink's.
Would love to hear your comments on the closer pictures.
Cheers !
I aprecciate your help very much. I created another user so I could post today (I'm new on the Forum, made more than 5 post's and didn't want to wait until tomorrow).
I have gotten more pictures of the Bike and have uploaded the available images both in this profile's gallery, and in fkirschfink's.
Would love to hear your comments on the closer pictures.
Cheers !
Here at least is a halfarsed pic of the stamped hangerless dropout. I don't know if Motta made bikes this lowend in Italy but I'd steer clear of it.
At least the brakes are actually alloy but still very low end models.
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Yeah that does not add up.
Check out my gallery here for lot's of detailed pics of a proper Motta bike.
https://pbase.com/jhuddle/motta
Check out my gallery here for lot's of detailed pics of a proper Motta bike.
https://pbase.com/jhuddle/motta
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11-12-23, 06:54 AM
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^ The elusive left side drive...
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a first AFAIK: never heard of a (rather obscure) marque like Gianni Motta being "counterfeited" before this one, but then again maybe not.
Could be a legit but very cheap Motta ("Personal 2001 Fly"?) that the seller then extra downgraded with cheap wheels, pedals and RD (yet a fairly OK FD but likely also found at a co-op or sidewalk sale).
As every other sensible poster has said: AVOID this one whatever the price!
Could be a legit but very cheap Motta ("Personal 2001 Fly"?) that the seller then extra downgraded with cheap wheels, pedals and RD (yet a fairly OK FD but likely also found at a co-op or sidewalk sale).
As every other sensible poster has said: AVOID this one whatever the price!
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Personal 2001 Fly would have signature coke bottle seat stays also that are not here with this frame.
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11-12-23, 02:33 PM
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Hi everyone,
I appreciate every single comment on this one.
FYI, the Bike was selling for 45 USD
I dont really think there were any tricks on the seller's sider, the later pictures are taken by me (I went to see It as It was nearby) and then guy knew nearly nothing about the Bike's brand, meaussurements, or anything.
Just wasnt the frame I hoped It could be.
thanks again !
I appreciate every single comment on this one.
FYI, the Bike was selling for 45 USD
I dont really think there were any tricks on the seller's sider, the later pictures are taken by me (I went to see It as It was nearby) and then guy knew nearly nothing about the Bike's brand, meaussurements, or anything.
Just wasnt the frame I hoped It could be.
thanks again !
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11-12-23, 03:44 PM
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I wonder if the cranks are Sugino. I would rather have seen older cosmic carbon on this but too each their own
11-13-23, 09:21 AM
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a first AFAIK: never heard of a (rather obscure) marque like Gianni Motta being "counterfeited" before this one, but then again maybe not.
Could be a legit but very cheap Motta ("Personal 2001 Fly"?) that the seller then extra downgraded with cheap wheels, pedals and RD (yet a fairly OK FD but likely also found at a co-op or sidewalk sale).
As every other sensible poster has said: AVOID this one whatever the price!
Could be a legit but very cheap Motta ("Personal 2001 Fly"?) that the seller then extra downgraded with cheap wheels, pedals and RD (yet a fairly OK FD but likely also found at a co-op or sidewalk sale).
As every other sensible poster has said: AVOID this one whatever the price!
on the bike shown in the pictures, nothing says "good frame". A lot of things say "walk away"
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