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Reynolds 531 12-27-23 03:09 PM

Need help identifying "old?" Bianchi
 
I hate to start a new thread, but....
I posted in the other thread, but it has gotten pushed down too far
Ok. Lets not start a new thread when all the experts are here. In fact it's pretty much a family tradition by now.https://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/beerchug.gif

Traded for one of my precious Suntour Ultra-6 freewheels:
One Bianchi frame, repainted Celeste, but appears to have always been Celeste after peeking inside.
Serial number on headtube 4B xxxxx
Long Campagnolo dropouts, with a cast notch on the rear of the NDS dropout. Never seen that on any bike.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8f4b7c5db0.jpg
wierd notch, plus divers helmet in background with 4,5mm I.D.

No braze ons AT ALL besides divers helmet.
Bianchi styled headset, not built in but "rounded".

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a8ce4060c4.jpg


Faux integrated headset
Fork seems original, but crappy brazing on chromed faux Campagnolo dropouts

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e56547f852.jpg

Seatpost 26.2mm

I would like help to figure out what year / era to repaint and finish this build. I have a set of Campagnolo 3 bolt Sport cranks that would look great, along with chrome steel Valentino (?) derailleurs if this is early. I have smooth 5 bolt Campagnolo if its late Bianchi.

SJX426 12-28-23 12:26 PM

Any marks on the headset?
I don't know Bianchi's, kind of a black hole to me but this frame does not look like high-end model.

Reynolds 531 12-28-23 05:02 PM

Thank you for the reply.


Originally Posted by SJX426 (Post 23112878)
Any marks on the headset?

None. Not a peep. But I haven't taken it apart.


Originally Posted by SJX426 (Post 23112878)
I don't know Bianchi's, kind of a black hole to me but this frame does not look like high-end model.

When picking it up, it also doesn't "feel" like a high-end model. Which ironically makes it the perfect candidate for Campagnolo 3 arm "Sport" cranks and chromed steel derailleurs.

mackgoo 12-28-23 07:28 PM

What's that serial number?

AdventureManCO 12-28-23 09:10 PM

Is this for sure a Bianchi? Paging Bianchigirll

Reynolds 531 12-28-23 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by mackgoo (Post 23113262)
what's that serial number?

4b2937xx


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23113354)
Is this for sure a Bianchi? Paging Bianchigirll

The most Bianchi thing is that is seems to be the "Celeste" paint inside*. Obviously repainted and ebay sticker on the headtube are inadmissible evidence.

*many clues may be found by removing the fork. I'll do that tomorrow.

SJX426 12-29-23 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23113354)
Is this for sure a Bianchi? Paging Bianchigirll

That is in interesting question!
Just checked this one for any Bianchi identifiation on the frame, none.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...743bc3f_4k.jpgPXL_20230127_132501638 on Flickr
The only indications are the paint, which is original, and the stampings of numbers and letters. Oh and the obvious integrated head set which I think may be unique for late 60s and , '70 &71, maybe 72 Bianchi's. This one has been identified as a '71.
I added the decals which were provided with the frame set.

mackgoo 12-29-23 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by SJX426 (Post 23113574)
That is in interesting question!
Just checked this one for any Bianchi identifiation on the frame, none.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...743bc3f_4k.jpgPXL_20230127_132501638 on Flickr
The only indications are the paint, which is original, and the stampings of numbers and letters. Oh and the obvious integrated head set which I think may be unique for late 60s and , '70 &71, maybe 72 Bianchi's. This one has been identified as a '71.
I added the decals which were provided with the frame set.

The number is on the seat tube lug.

Reynolds 531 12-29-23 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by mackgoo (Post 23113641)
The number is on the seat tube lug.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7b718752c4.jpg

billytwosheds 12-29-23 11:01 AM

Other than the color(s) and head badge sticker, what makes us think this is a Bianchi?

Reynolds 531 12-29-23 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by billytwosheds (Post 23113734)
Other than the color(s) and head badge sticker, what makes us think this is a Bianchi?

Good question.
I would say the location and font of the serial number looks like some Bianchis. The fork crown is reminiscent of a Bianchi, but it doesn't match my other Bianchis, for what its worth.

SJX426 12-29-23 12:07 PM

like this:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9de5cf1_3k.jpg71BianchiSeatLug Bolt on Flickr

Check both sides:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3ea0e3f_3k.jpg71BianchiDone16 on Flickr

randyjawa 12-29-23 12:14 PM

To me that head set screams Bianchi. Picked this one up a few years back. Sadly, too big for me and even more sadly, the original owner drilled holes in the top tube...
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f809afe10c.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9cef6d5b16.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3a661d32f1.jpg

3alarmer 12-29-23 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by AdventureManCO (Post 23113354)
Is this for sure a Bianchi? Paging Bianchigirll

...I think (but am not 100% on it) that the seat stay attachment on that frame is exclusive to Bianchi of a certain era.
They had a distinctive cast seat lug, that included those bullet shaped stay ends as part of the seat tube top lug.

Reynolds 531 12-29-23 12:40 PM

Zeroing in on February 1974 Bianchi Rekord.

https://www.registrostoricocicli.com...e-bianchi-265/
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...71009b1ca3.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...55eae56956.jpg

bibliobob 01-01-24 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 23113822)
...I think (but am not 100% on it) that the seat stay attachment on that frame is exclusive to Bianchi of a certain era.
They had a distinctive cast seat lug, that included those bullet shaped stay ends as part of the seat tube top lug.

​​​​​​
​​​​​​Exactly. For the record, I was the person that gave to frame set to Reynolds 531 . The seat stay caps are very similar to both my '54 and '64 Bianchis. This frame was part of a husband/wife combo which included my '64 Bianchi, which was a second of the line "Team Issue," which was second only to the 999 serial Reparto Corse bikes of that era.

It's definitely a Bianchi... What year and where in the pecking order is another question entirely.... Cool bike, regardless!

SJX426 01-01-24 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by randyjawa (Post 23113815)
To me that head set screams Bianchi. Picked this one up a few years back. Sadly, too big for me and even more sadly, the original owner drilled holes in the top tube...

Worked it - Filling top tube holes - Bike Forums

mpetry912 01-01-24 01:44 PM

is it just me or does that RH front fork dropout look incompletely brazed ?

/markp

Reynolds 531 01-01-24 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by mpetry912 (Post 23116320)
is it just me or does that RH front fork dropout look incompletely brazed ?

/markp

Definitely. Even two paint jobs couldn't fill that gap.


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