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Old 02-15-24 | 06:45 AM
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Brooks Champion Flyer missing something?

I was hoping someone familiar with brooks saddles could shed some light on this. I recently purchased used a Brooks Champion Flyer on Ebay. I threw out an offer to the seller and they excepted. I really didn't scrutinize the photos closely, and I'm not familiar with the way these look underneath, but when I looked back at the photos later, I noticed that the underside of this saddle looks different than brooks photos I am pulling off the web. For one thing, it has only one pair of rails which seems unusual. The other thing I am puzzled by is the tightening pin area. I see no bolt or pin there. Is something missing? If so, is this a part that I can find easily for sale?

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Old 02-15-24 | 07:02 AM
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FYI, I have not received the saddle in the mail yet.
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Definitely looks like the tensioning bolt is either missing or it has been replaced. I would agree on your rail assessment as well. You can see marks in the leather where it may have rubbed on them.
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Old 02-15-24 | 07:13 AM
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Paging rhm , this guy needs help. [MENTION=73614]rhm[/MENTION]
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There's a lot of non-original hardware in that photo!

This is what one of my Champion Flyers looks like...



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Old 02-15-24 | 08:01 AM
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Yeah, the tension bolt is all wrong, and one of the V-shaped pieces of the frame is missing. There is no way to put tension on the leather, so I'm afraid this saddle will not be ridable.
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Old 02-15-24 | 08:51 AM
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Bummer. Well it was listed as used but "fully functional", so I suppose I will ask for a return. If they refuse I will have to open a not as described case I suppose.

Now that I understand the design better of the sprung model frames, I can see the lower bracket is missing, and parts of the tensioning mechanism.
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