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Found me a PX10
I wanted a blue one after tinkering on a his and hers A08’s. I often thought about posting a WTB ad. But figured that is one N+1 that was out of reach.
The grandson of the original owner listed Grandpa’s Peugeot on the interwebz. It was local, it was affordable for me. But it was black. The pictures showed a complete bike in a condition that I could live with, which in my humble, inexperienced opinion; Nice. Being that I’ve ogled pictures for months here on BF and elsewhere, I now have a calibrated eyeball. The size of the head tube told me it was my size. So I made contact with the seller and went to go “look”. I had to have it. My brain told me as I inspected every inch in about 2 and 1/2 seconds. A deal was made. The original owner spoke of fond memories of his rides so long ago. With much excitement I loaded the PX10 into the bed of my truck. I hopped in and turned the key. Ready to bring my latest C&V bike home. The joy was short lived. My phone that I left in the truck indicated I had a text. A relative on the other side of the country had informed me via a text (really!?!) that a dear cousin had passed. We were close in age and did lots of fun and crazy stuff together when we were growing up. I left home over 30 years ago. Shoot, almost 40. But we stayed in touch. Until his divorce about 5 years ago. Other relatives have passed over the years. But this one. This one hurts. It’s gonna for a long time. The PX10 is now home. And very fitting that this one is black. This one’s for you Patrick. Sorry for the extra stuff in this post. This forum is about C&V bikes. It’s taken quite a while to get to this part where I add pics. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7acfcb2a2.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...324fd4826.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8511d6189.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c96e3c5ae.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e4c224e83.jpeg |
Looks real good. I'm sorry to hear about your cousin.
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Nice Find!
Very sorry about your loss. I hope you attach good memories to your rehab of this bike in honor of Patrick.
This is a great period of PX10s and this one looks very original. Looking forward to seeing the end product! |
Nice to see a black one for a change....:thumb:
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Sorry for your loss but that is a wonderful bike.
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looks like she hails from the ~1976 time lyotard 36R peds would not have been original would have been fitted ex-works with lyotard 45CA another machine with Maillard 700's... ----- |
I'm looking forward to your ride report, as this era of PX-10 has a steep head tube angle...how does it feel to you?
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Originally Posted by BTinNYC
(Post 23166784)
I'm looking forward to your ride report, as this era of PX-10 has a steep head tube angle...how does it feel to you?
I put it on the bike stand first thing this morning. One of the jockey wheels is missing some teeth. But other than that everything works. I’m tempted to install a set of tubes and take it for a spin in the neighborhood. juvela I’m looking forward to your incredible wealth of knowledge as on my other French bikes that you provided. And yes after talking with the original owner and jogging his memory he did say it was 1976. I’m thinking that when I finish the rehab I’ll bring the bike to the original owners house for him to have a look and a photo op. |
Hubs. Front wheel/hub replaced?
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700's on Peugeots generally exhibit Peugeot labels the mixed labels here may reflect using up what was available there be some variation of label on 700's here is an advert of July 1973 for the product launch the label shown is one have never seen on an actual hub https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9883a6f858.jpg in case you envision making any alterations remember that cycle constructed with metric gear block, pedal, headset and bottom bracket thread ----- |
Brake calipers with scrapers. I’ve not seen scrapers in person before this.
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Love the mafacs
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That's very nice. Interesting that it has a Stronglight 99 crank, rather than the customary 49 or 93. Maybe a change from the original? I can't say. But it looks fine, and will make it a lot easier to convert the bike to a triple, should you decide to, or just to a wide-range double with a humanely low bottom gear. As others have said, the black paint is unusual and adds quite a lot of coolness. Enjoy it!
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Wonderful bike.
Follow-up with a ride report. Red may be fast but black is dependable and perhaps classy. Check the FD clamp for cracks. Looks maybe Delrin? and hey, ......no hating on the white w black lugs, we are 'part way there'. I have had a couple of black bikes that I 'loved'. |
May Patrick's memory be a blessing, and may each ride bring those memories to the present.
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Originally Posted by jonwvara
(Post 23167276)
That's very nice. Interesting that it has a Stronglight 99 crank, rather than the customary 49 or 93. Maybe a change from the original? I can't say. But it looks fine, and will make it a lot easier to convert the bike to a triple, should you decide to, or just to a wide-range double with a humanely low bottom gear. As others have said, the black paint is unusual and adds quite a lot of coolness. Enjoy it!
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there was a recent lively discussion on an example which turned out to be a '77 model PX-10 over at thecabe - - a silver one this time https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/pe...got-it.235147/ ----- |
I read through the available brochures on bikeboompeugeot. There is no 76 one for the US. But for the UK, Germany, Nederlands the crank is the 93. And I believe for 77 those countries were offered the 105. The 77 US brochure lists the crank being a 99.
Also a minor point/question/thought; I thought the rims would’ve been tubular, not clinchers. I hadn’t planned on riding the bike until after a rehab. But I woke up this a.m. with a wild hair. Since I’ve got a smallish(but growing) stash of parts I replaced both RD jockey wheels and installed a set of tires. Now I know why the tubes were so cheap on ebay. Look at the size of the valve stem! Looks goofy. I’m going to regret installing the tires when I go to polish the rims. Ooops. It pedals nice on the repair stand. Wheels look to be sufficiently true. The ride is postponed. It’s currently raining. My faith in the braking ability isn’t strong. Maillard 14-24 freewheel. The proper Stronglight crank tool is ordered (JA Stein). https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...59a839beb.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...482d038a3.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...33201dc33.jpeg |
Sorry for your loss. The bike is excellent.
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I understand not riding in the rain but just know, good calipers on aluminum rims work pretty darn well in the rain. The first revolution will clear the rims, after that you'll slow almost as well as in the dry.
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Get KoolStop pads for the calipers.
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The rain subsided. The roads drained well enough. I pedaled far enough and hard enough to awaken that voice in my sig line.
All I gotta say is Wowzer!! Sacre Bleu! What a ride! I thought my 88 Black Lightning was a spirited ride. My leaning and steering around corners felt to me very responsive. The geometry of this frame feels like a glove. The gearing for powering up a smallish hill worked fine for me. Wish the bars were taped. Brakes worked just fine. And those funny looking tire scrapers work. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c45ef4955.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0a024932b.jpeg |
Originally Posted by IdahoBrett
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The rain subsided. The roads drained well enough. I pedaled far enough and hard enough to awaken that voice in my sig line.
All I gotta say is Wowzer!! Sacre Bleu! What a ride! I thought my 88 Black Lightning was a spirited ride. My leaning and steering around corners felt to me very responsive. The geometry of this frame feels like a glove. The gearing for powering up a smallish hill worked fine for me. Wish the bars were taped. Brakes worked just fine. And those funny looking tire scrapers work. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c45ef4955.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0a024932b.jpeg |
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Beautiful bike and looks to be fairly original. I have a buddy who has one of these in black. The stronglight 99 crank is, IMO, a plus as you can run it compact for better climbing gears. Plus the rear simplex derailleur is quite good and can handle a decent sized freewheel. Here is the info from velobase, VeloBase.com - Component: Simplex SX410 T
I modded my 1982 Peugeot PXN 10 with an 86 bcd crank like your stronglight 99. I'm running 50/36 rings with a 14-28 6 speed freewheel. An 86 bcd crank will go as small as 28 teeth (and it's easy to convert one to a triple if you want though finding the right length spindle may not be easy). |
Interesting how owners will go on and on about how much they loved riding their bikes, then you look at the chainrings and wonder "How many miles was that?" I bought a similar Raleigh International about a decade ago and the tiny wear lines on the bearings once I got them apart reaffirmed that the bike had maybe a hundred miles on it since 1974, yet the OO made it sound like he had ridden it across the country.
This PX 10LE would have come with tubulars, so the original owner must have had the hubs relaced with clinchers. Not at all uncommon in those days when 700C was just arriving on the US shores. |
Nice bike! Good way to memorialize someone who was close.
Have a similar Maillard freewheel on my Moto Super Sprint. I'll get around to a tooth count on it next time the wheel is off. The stacked looking construction of it had me first thinking it was an early cassette. (It does share the remove-able cog system a bit with the later cassettes) I know a couple of rides isn't really enough to form an opinion on the tires, but what do you think? Don't see gum/tan-wall Conti's around here very much. -D.S. |
Originally Posted by Doc Sharptail
(Post 23433665)
Nice bike! Good way to memorialize someone who was close.
Have a similar Maillard freewheel on my Moto Super Sprint. I'll get around to a tooth count on it next time the wheel is off. The stacked looking construction of it had me first thinking it was an early cassette. (It does share the remove-able cog system a bit with the later cassettes) I know a couple of rides isn't really enough to form an opinion on the tires, but what do you think? Don't see gum/tan-wall Conti's around here very much. -D.S. I’m a novice rider so my opinion on the tires and a dollar might get ya a cup of coffee. But yes they appear to be a quality tire. I’ve only done a couple of short rides on the PX10 with these Conti’s. So not much data there. But I did use a set on my 01 C’dale for a couple hundred miles last summer. They replaced a $20 Giant tire. I can’t say I felt any different in ride quality. And I’m only a 15 mph (24 kph) 90 degree corner taker. So I can’t comment on any traction improvement over the Giant’s. Now this next one I’d like to attribute to the weight difference between a Conti vs a heavier cheap tire. But I’m a novice, so it could be the power of suggestion or the thought that I spent silly money on a set of tires so they should perform better; I’ve got a 5% grade hill that I ride up every time I go for a pedal on my C’dale. With the Giant tires I would crest the hill at 8 mph. According to the old CatEye. The first ride with the Conti’s I crested at 10 mph. And did so many times after (once at 12 mph). Once late Summer came the “goat head” plant that’s prolific where I live started to seed my route. Those spikey little demon seeds gave me two flats. So I switched to Gatorskins and rode those until I switched bikes in November. So that was a bunch of word salad I just typed. Hope it helps. If not I’ll buy you a cup of coffee if you’re ever nearby. |
Originally Posted by IdahoBrett
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Thanks!
I’m a novice rider so my opinion on the tires and a dollar might get ya a cup of coffee. But yes they appear to be a quality tire. I’ve only done a couple of short rides on the PX10 with these Conti’s. So not much data there. But I did use a set on my 01 C’dale for a couple hundred miles last summer. They replaced a $20 Giant tire. I can’t say I felt any different in ride quality. And I’m only a 15 mph (24 kph) 90 degree corner taker. So I can’t comment on any traction improvement over the Giant’s. Now this next one I’d like to attribute to the weight difference between a Conti vs a heavier cheap tire. But I’m a novice, so it could be the power of suggestion or the thought that I spent silly money on a set of tires so they should perform better; I’ve got a 5% grade hill that I ride up every time I go for a pedal on my C’dale. With the Giant tires I would crest the hill at 8 mph. According to the old CatEye. The first ride with the Conti’s I crested at 10 mph. And did so many times after (once at 12 mph). Once late Summer came the “goat head” plant that’s prolific where I live started to seed my route. Those spikey little demon seeds gave me two flats. So I switched to Gatorskins and rode those until I switched bikes in November. So that was a bunch of word salad I just typed. Hope it helps. If not I’ll buy you a cup of coffee if you’re ever nearby. Got my first "quality" tire in October- a Panaracer Pasela in 700 x 28. Until then, I relied on tires from Wally, or what ever I could find cheap. The bike is responsive enough to lean in some of the higher speed corners with the worn no name gumwalls that were on it. I rode them a bit and rough averaged 12 mph. (there's little to climb around here) With the pasela, my average notched up to about 14 mph the last time I calculated it. Best guess is I crested the 15 mph average mark at the end of dry road season. That average may go up again in the coming spring- I plan on replacing the end of it's life Rigida steel wheel with a modern alloy wheel. I sure learned a valuable lesson on tires last fall. I have a blackwall Continental Sport 2 on the front rim with the same odd tread pattern as what appears on yours. -D.S. |
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