What type of crankset is this?
I saw this beautiful crankset on an older Italian bike that had mostly campy stuff on it.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c9a962788.jpeg |
Nervar?
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NERVAR Star from the firm Etablissements Peyrard, of St. Etienne, France this is the first generation it received a cosmetic revision for the 1976 model year but all parts interchange between the "G1" & "G2" editions https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?...serialNumber=2 https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?...serialNumber=2 below is the later type - https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a4aa8383f2.jpg ----- |
Could it be a Nervar Star?
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Whoops, jervela and merziac got there before me…
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Definitely Nervar Star. I had a set on my first "quality" bike. Paid $20 to upgrade from the cottered crank it came with.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...87f0fc65d4.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc5c499ff9.png Sorry for the fuzzy picture, bestg I could do back in 1977 |
Very underrated little crankset. Light as heck and usually very non-French compliant! Normal extraction threads too.
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since OP has the dust caps (or at least one) my 2¢ is
clean the threads with alcohol and apply a drop or 2 of LocTite (Blue or Purple) and maybe you'll always have those caps! IMO only downside to the Nervar Star is the uncommon BCD(s) the early Gen used 122 bcd and later Gen used 128 bcd (which DOES allow use of some Stronglight rings, maybe some other FR brands that made a variety like TA?) |
Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23186074)
IMO only downside to the Nervar Star is the uncommon BCD(s) the early Gen used 122 bcd and later Gen used 128 bcd (which DOES allow use of some Stronglight rings, maybe some other FR brands that made a variety like TA?)
Funny @gugie put them on his Super Course — me too! (not hashtag me too, just regular me too). Mine is a '71. I rode it for a while with cottered steel but when I went to work in the bike shop in '71 or '72 (I forget), my first paycheck went to a Nervar Star. It came in a display box with the matching recesses in the styrofoam liner, super classy with the cups and axle all laid out in a "buy me!" pose... Mine had been water-damaged, some corrosion on part of the crank, which is the only way I could afford it even with my employee discount, but I was super-stoked anyway. A couple years later, Raleigh made a SC that came with Nervar cotterless, but it was steel cotterless, and the spider was swaged-on, not forged integral like the Star. I pitied the fools who bought that! ;) Even at 14 y.o. I was a bike snob. |
I didn't know the brand, but guessed it was French. Don't ask me why, there's just something about the aesthetic.
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Originally Posted by bulgie
(Post 23186250)
Are you sure about that? I (vaguely) remember it opposite, that they were 128 at first, with some 122 mm ones later. 128 is close enough to use 130 rings with some filing, not ideal but do-able. 122 of course is a perfect match with Stronglight 93 and similar (49, 57, 63, 104 et al.)
Not. I recalled there being 2 BCDs for Nervar Star and checked on Velobase, where there is some contradictory info! But then found this entry by none other than our own Chas, and he agrees with our own Bulgie, so... end of story! :D "These are the earlier model Nevar Star cranks from the Bike Boom era of the early 1970s. They take proprietary 128mm BCD chainrings. The later version from the late 70's used 122mm BCD chainrings - the same as Stronglight." |
Originally Posted by Lbxpdx
(Post 23185924)
I saw this beautiful crankset on an older Italian bike that had mostly campy stuff on it.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...53e0b544d9.jpg .
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
(Post 23186074)
since OP has the dust caps (or at least one) my 2¢ is
clean the threads with alcohol and apply a drop or 2 of LocTite (Blue or Purple) and maybe you'll always have those caps! The cap in the original pic appears to not be stamped with the Nervar name. All the ones I have (about 4 caps, maybe more) have the name stamped in. Makes me wonder if this was a "private label" or house brand crank that Nervar made for another company. |
Originally Posted by bulgie
(Post 23186626)
"I'd like a new belt, please." |
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@bulgie have seen other machines fitted with the G1 Star OEM where the set was like the one in the OP's image with no marking always assumed this may have been an option at the OEM level but no hard information ----- |
Originally Posted by bulgie
(Post 23186628)
Hmm, I always lubed the threads, to ensure they come out easily when the time comes. Anti-seize is probably best, but I use whatever's handy, such as grease or a med-heavy oil. Never had one come loose accidentally.
I also generally follow the "grease all threads" rule of thumb, except when easily lost bits are concerned such as crank and pedal dustcaps or the notorious Sun Tour barcon slotted locknuts! I find LocTite will both "glue" the threads (but not too tight for removal when it's time) plus form a moisture barrier that prevents corrosion/galling as well as grease does. Since I started using the "low strength" Purple it has become my choice for most bicycle applications. Cleaning the threads is a critical step for LocTite (any color) so it's a bit more involved than greasing. As with so many topics: YMMV |
Originally Posted by gugie
(Post 23186027)
Definitely Nervar Star. I had a set on my first "quality" bike. Paid $20 to upgrade from the cottered crank it came with.
How did you decide - did you already know or did the LBS suggest? |
Originally Posted by oneclick
(Post 23187054)
That's a *great* upgrade list on that receipt.
How did you decide - did you already know or did the LBS suggest? |
Originally Posted by juvela
(Post 23186713)
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@bulgie have seen other machines fitted with the G1 Star OEM where the set was like the one in the OP's image with no marking always assumed this may have been an option at the OEM level but no hard information |
Originally Posted by bulgie
(Post 23186626)
Revisiting your photo, I have a couple questions:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...53e0b544d9.jpg .
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Here's one of mine that I triplized, "Campy style", but at 86 mm BCD for a Stronglight 99 granny.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a22b9987c2.jpg It's 175 mm too, so a bit of a unicorn. They're out there... I have another 175 mm set too, haven't decided yet what to do with it. |
Originally Posted by gugie
(Post 23186027)
Definitely Nervar Star. I had a set on my first "quality" bike. Paid $20 to upgrade from the cottered crank it came with.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...87f0fc65d4.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc5c499ff9.png Sorry for the fuzzy picture, bestg I could do back in 1977 https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4348a81f1.jpg |
Originally Posted by bikingshearer
(Post 23187500)
And now we know the historically-correct building to buy to set up the long-awaited Museo di Gugie! :D
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4348a81f1.jpg ----- yes, but will it have adequate square footage to house both workshop and collection? :eek: ----- |
Originally Posted by gugie
(Post 23186027)
Definitely Nervar Star. I had a set on my first "quality" bike. Paid $20 to upgrade from the cottered crank it came with.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...87f0fc65d4.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc5c499ff9.png Sorry for the fuzzy picture, bestg I could do back in 1977 I bet you have no evidence issues if your ever audited by the IRS ;) |
Originally Posted by joesch
(Post 23187738)
Im quite impressed you still have these kind of paper records.
I bet you have no evidence issues if your ever audited by the IRS ;) |
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