On the Road Again Project Challenges - Again
04-22-24 | 01:50 AM
#26
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Awesome job on that Fuji!
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1987 Crest C'dale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin EL, 1990 Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Isoard, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 C'dale M500, 1984 Mercian Pro, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi ?, 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh Internat'l, 1998 Corratec U+D, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone, 1987 Bianchi Volpe, 1995 Trek 750
04-22-24 | 05:59 AM
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Well I finished hooking it up and it stops the bike, so I guess I'll stick with it for now. I am not sure I want to go the centerpull route it would just look even funnier to me.
My next question is, what common vintage rear derailleur can work with a 9 speed cassette? I tried a cyclone mk-II long cage and it only goes up to the 8th cog (2nd gear). I think the cable is tight enough, and the adjustment screw is all the way out. The shifter is a Shimano BS50 in friction mode. I have a deore dx somewhere, would that work? Or is it the shifter? This is actually the first time I've tried anything over 7 cogs, so I've no clue.
Alternatively, if I use a smaller cassette such as a 7 or 8 speed, would I need to stick a spacer on the hub? Or no?
My next question is, what common vintage rear derailleur can work with a 9 speed cassette? I tried a cyclone mk-II long cage and it only goes up to the 8th cog (2nd gear). I think the cable is tight enough, and the adjustment screw is all the way out. The shifter is a Shimano BS50 in friction mode. I have a deore dx somewhere, would that work? Or is it the shifter? This is actually the first time I've tried anything over 7 cogs, so I've no clue.
Alternatively, if I use a smaller cassette such as a 7 or 8 speed, would I need to stick a spacer on the hub? Or no?
An easy test: with the bike on a repair stand, turn the cranks with your right hand while pushing the bottom of the rear derailleur parallelogram inward with your left hand. With the inner-limit screw backed out all the way, the chain should easily reach the cassette's largest cog. (Be careful not to overshoot and push the chain into the spokes!)
If the chain does indeed reach the largest cog, that tells you that the problem would likely be solved by replacing the index/friction shifter with a shifter from the pre-indexing era.
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04-22-24 | 07:26 AM
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one can only wonder how the heck they got him mounted up thar!
unlikely to have been helicopters extant at that epoch...
perhaps ein kranischer gigante
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04-22-24 | 07:35 AM
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I'm thinking of participating in this challenge so I started looking for suitable candidates. I came across a FB Marketplace ad for a "Burleigh road bicycle". I've come up empty trying to find information on this bike. Has anyone ever seen or heard of this bike before? Is it bike shop quality or was it sold at Toys R Us in 1970s? It appears to have a lugged frame and there is a downtube sticker that says "Chrome Molybdenum".
Here are a couple of images from the ad:
Here are a couple of images from the ad:
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Ach Du lederkrans!
Krautkraft im farben.
Perchance a perpetration of someone such as Kalkhoff...
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04-22-24 | 09:08 AM
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Tearing Down the Ross
I dismantled the Ross yesterday, cleaned the frame and components and applied a light coat of boiled linseed oil to the frame this morning.
Ross frame and fork wiped down with boiled linseed oil.
No polishing - just a basic cleaning.
During the tear down I determined a new headset, chain and rim strips were needed. Mucho Cheapo of course. I would normally opt for rim tape but there is that budget to consider.
Expenses so far:
Mucho Cheapo Ross - $10.00
Mucho Cheapo Neco headset - $9.90
Mucho Cheapo 7-speed chain - $9.96
Mucho Cheapo Amazon rim strips - $7.49
Mucho Cheapo expenses to date - $37.35
Ross frame and fork wiped down with boiled linseed oil.
No polishing - just a basic cleaning.
During the tear down I determined a new headset, chain and rim strips were needed. Mucho Cheapo of course. I would normally opt for rim tape but there is that budget to consider.
Expenses so far:
Mucho Cheapo Ross - $10.00
Mucho Cheapo Neco headset - $9.90
Mucho Cheapo 7-speed chain - $9.96
Mucho Cheapo Amazon rim strips - $7.49
Mucho Cheapo expenses to date - $37.35
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04-24-24 | 11:57 AM
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From: Wayne county, TN
Bikes: 1982 Austro Daimler SLE, Eastern Alpaka 29er
Can I play? Frame up.
Started with 1982 AD SLE frame and fork with Tange headset.
Has shimano Hubs, freewheel, RD,crankset, BB,chainrings, brakes, levers,and shifters.
Suntour ARX FD
Araya rims
BELLERI St. Etienne Bars with ATAX quill stem.
Galli Mallard pedals
Continetal ultra sport tires
ANPI seat post.
Has shimano Hubs, freewheel, RD,crankset, BB,chainrings, brakes, levers,and shifters.
Suntour ARX FD
Araya rims
BELLERI St. Etienne Bars with ATAX quill stem.
Galli Mallard pedals
Continetal ultra sport tires
ANPI seat post.
04-25-24 | 05:56 AM
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re (It started with a part) I just had-to-get one of those 3-pulley derailleurs last November!
04-25-24 | 07:58 AM
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Bikes: '23 Canyon Endurace, '87 Bottecchia Equipe Professional
Yup, the 2024 build is going to be weird, since it started that way.
A Swedish bike with French BB and ISO steerer. High quality tubes (Vitus 971) and lugs, yet crudely assembled.
The horrible paint removal of this tough stuff is nearly done. Next is the braze-ons; bottle cage mounts, shifter bosses, cable stop under the chainstay, and housing covers for internal routing of the rear brake cable.
Cresent Pepita 318
A Swedish bike with French BB and ISO steerer. High quality tubes (Vitus 971) and lugs, yet crudely assembled.
The horrible paint removal of this tough stuff is nearly done. Next is the braze-ons; bottle cage mounts, shifter bosses, cable stop under the chainstay, and housing covers for internal routing of the rear brake cable.
Cresent Pepita 318
04-25-24 | 08:36 PM
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Clarification needed...
I've stalled out on this heap over multiple Clunker challenges:
The frame was picked out of a trash heap and the wheelset was $25.
EDIT: While I think I can bring it in under the mucho-cheapo budget the result will fit MUCH better in Frankenbike
I've stalled out on this heap over multiple Clunker challenges:
The frame was picked out of a trash heap and the wheelset was $25.
EDIT: While I think I can bring it in under the mucho-cheapo budget the result will fit MUCH better in Frankenbike
04-26-24 | 06:51 AM
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I'm in! I guess I'll go for the "mucho cheapo" category again, although I'm going to feel a little bad because I know I'll be replacing some stuff with parts that have been in my possession for quite some time which adds $0 to the total.
Anyway....
I picked up a Motobecane Grand Record at the local bike thrift store a a couple weeks ago for $37.50 ($35 plus tax).
As purchased, loaded up at the thrift store:
Here is a "before" pic:
The only thing I've done to it up to this point was air up the extremely dry rotted tires and rode up and down my short driveway a couple times. I also gave hardware and some components some lube, in preparation for teardown during The Challenge timeframe. I'm happy The Challenge has begun, because I've been itching to get working on this.
I began disassembling some things today, the rack was the first thing to go!
Anyway....
I picked up a Motobecane Grand Record at the local bike thrift store a a couple weeks ago for $37.50 ($35 plus tax).
As purchased, loaded up at the thrift store:
Here is a "before" pic:
The only thing I've done to it up to this point was air up the extremely dry rotted tires and rode up and down my short driveway a couple times. I also gave hardware and some components some lube, in preparation for teardown during The Challenge timeframe. I'm happy The Challenge has begun, because I've been itching to get working on this.
I began disassembling some things today, the rack was the first thing to go!
Looks a bit like a bike I found last fall at my town's transfer station re-use table (except for it's a Huffy; might be my ride this year). Pics as-found, plus bonus pic of re-use table from up above....
04-26-24 | 07:26 AM
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Why not… 1974 Schwinn Continental. Picked it up for $13. Was supposed to be a quick flip. The snowball started rolling with the chrome fork crown cap. The original was cracked. I found one on ebay. I paid a ridiculous $30. Evaporust, Bar Keepers friend, Flitz, clay bar, rubbing compound, liquid carnuba wax, new decals, Schwinn cables/housings, Hunt-Wilde bar tape, etc. I stopped keeping track after $100. Restoration? Close to being on the road again. The most over restored Schwinn on BF for the year award?
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04-26-24 | 12:30 PM
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Bikes: 1984 Miyata 310, 1986 Schwinn Sierra, 1987 Ross Mt. Hood, 1988 Schwinn LeTour, 1988 Trek 400T, 1981 Fuji S12-1977 Univega Grand Rally, S LTD, 1973 Sears Free Spirit 531, 197? FW Evans
04-26-24 | 01:28 PM
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04-26-24 | 02:09 PM
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Clarification needed...
I've stalled out on this heap over multiple Clunker challenges:
...
The frame was picked out of a trash heap and the wheelset was $25.
EDIT: While I think I can bring it in under the mucho-cheapo budget the result will fit MUCH better in Frankenbike
I've stalled out on this heap over multiple Clunker challenges:
...
The frame was picked out of a trash heap and the wheelset was $25.
EDIT: While I think I can bring it in under the mucho-cheapo budget the result will fit MUCH better in Frankenbike
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04-26-24 | 02:16 PM
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Why not… 1974 Schwinn Continental. Picked it up for $13. Was supposed to be a quick flip. The snowball started rolling with the chrome fork crown cap. The original was cracked. I found one on ebay. I paid a ridiculous $30. Evaporust, Bar Keepers friend, Flitz, clay bar, rubbing compound, liquid carnuba wax, new decals, Schwinn cables/housings, Hunt-Wilde bar tape, etc. I stopped keeping track after $100. Restoration? Close to being on the road again. The most over restored Schwinn on BF for the year award?
That's not the absolute best condition that I've seen one of those in, but it's close to it.
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04-26-24 | 02:22 PM
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More Progress on the Fuji Finest
Frame is now ready for the build. In checking the frame before the final polish, I found that it needed to be cold set back to 120 from 126 and the hangar needed to be aligned. Pretty happy with how it came out. I’m no Jack Trumbull but this came out pretty sharp for a rattle can job. Good prep and a lot of sanding makes all the difference.
04-26-24 | 02:48 PM
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04-26-24 | 05:22 PM
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Frame is now ready for the build. In checking the frame before the final polish, I found that it needed to be cold set back to 120 from 126 and the hangar needed to be aligned. Pretty happy with how it came out. I’m no Jack Trumbull but this came out pretty sharp for a rattle can job. Good prep and a lot of sanding makes all the difference.
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04-26-24 | 07:30 PM
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04-26-24 | 10:26 PM
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I'm not certain if it is an artifact of the camera angle, or whether it's the positioning of the cap, or if the fork is truly a bit cock-eyed, but if you haven't already measured it, it couldn't hurt to check it.
That's not the absolute best condition that I've seen one of those in, but it's close to it.
That's not the absolute best condition that I've seen one of those in, but it's close to it.
Awaiting shipment of the last part. Some more housing for the derailleur cables. No pics from today. But I did set up the brakes. Then I realized I shoulda put the rear rack on first. Oops.
A full body shot from the other day just because:
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04-26-24 | 10:48 PM
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Why not… 1974 Schwinn Continental. Picked it up for $13. Was supposed to be a quick flip. The snowball started rolling with the chrome fork crown cap. The original was cracked. I found one on ebay. I paid a ridiculous $30. Evaporust, Bar Keepers friend, Flitz, clay bar, rubbing compound, liquid carnuba wax, new decals, Schwinn cables/housings, Hunt-Wilde bar tape, etc. I stopped keeping track after $100. Restoration? Close to being on the road again. The most over restored Schwinn on BF for the year award?
Wow, that turned out freakin' nice!
04-27-24 | 05:22 AM
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I wish they had something like that where I live. The closest thing would be the people who set things out by the road a few days before trash day. The township has a large item collection a couple times a year, but everything goes straight in a dumpster. They have one for metal and another one for everything else. A couple weeks ago I was going past the township building while they were having a collection and I spotted a girl's bike hanging off the back of a truck as they turned in. A couple hours later, I was buying one at a flea market to fix up for my niece. It was a '92 Schwinn CrissCross for $20. I was scrambling to get it finished in time for my next trip over there and forgot to get a picture.
Our small town does not provide for trash pickup. We bring ours to the town dump (transfer station).
We were once featured in a New York Times article!! https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/13/us/13dump.html
Back then, the re-use table was up top on the same level as the other disposal and recycling. After the table caught fire, they moved it to the area down below.
04-27-24 | 08:06 AM
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Actually, the cap was what I thought was most likely. Hope that's what it was.
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04-27-24 | 08:50 AM
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I've been trying to avoid this thread bad. I LOVE the idea, and USAZorro has been the admirable torch-bearer for the top 'clunker' challenge right now. Its just I've been trying to get rid of these things and this type of build is so condusive to hoarding junk lol!
BUT.
I love the spirit, its right up my alley, I've never had a successful entry yet, and I DO actually have a project frame still...it has been so close to heading to scrap...probably more than a dozen times. Which means its probably the perfect time to throw money and time at yet another pointless, useless project (I'm great at this).
BUT.
I love the spirit, its right up my alley, I've never had a successful entry yet, and I DO actually have a project frame still...it has been so close to heading to scrap...probably more than a dozen times. Which means its probably the perfect time to throw money and time at yet another pointless, useless project (I'm great at this).