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Old 04-21-24, 07:56 PM
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From the frame up Fuji Finest

This project started after I acquired a mystery frame from my friend Addison after he closed the Bicycle Repairium in Sacramento. There was a thread on this where the BF hive mind helped me identify the frame as a June 1971 Fuji Finest.

This is a true from the frame up project after I stripped it down to bare metal and have been acquiring parts and building it up. Spent the last couple of weeks building wheels for it, painting the frame and applying period and model accurate water slide decals from Gus Salmon. Letting the decals cure for a few days and then it is time for the 2k clear coat. Here is a sneak preview:

Frame as received from Addison.

After media blasting.

Found a head badge that matched the rivet holes in the head tube

Tracked down a Fuji branded Belt saddle

Some assembly required!

Primer coat done!

Finished the wheel build.

First coat of paint.

Hade enough left over to paint a matching set of fenders.
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Originally Posted by rgvg
Well I finished hooking it up and it stops the bike, so I guess I'll stick with it for now. I am not sure I want to go the centerpull route it would just look even funnier to me.

My next question is, what common vintage rear derailleur can work with a 9 speed cassette? I tried a cyclone mk-II long cage and it only goes up to the 8th cog (2nd gear). I think the cable is tight enough, and the adjustment screw is all the way out. The shifter is a Shimano BS50 in friction mode. I have a deore dx somewhere, would that work? Or is it the shifter? This is actually the first time I've tried anything over 7 cogs, so I've no clue.

Alternatively, if I use a smaller cassette such as a 7 or 8 speed, would I need to stick a spacer on the hub? Or no?
It could be the shifter. The Shimano 8-speed down tube index/friction shifter on the 16-speed bike I once owned rotated nearly 180 degrees to shift across the corresponding 8-speed cassette. If I'm not mistaken, your cyclone rear derailleur was designed to be compatible with a pre-indexing shift lever with a larger barrel, which would result in more cable travel (and thus more rear derailleur movement) per degree of lever rotation.

An easy test: with the bike on a repair stand, turn the cranks with your right hand while pushing the bottom of the rear derailleur parallelogram inward with your left hand. With the inner-limit screw backed out all the way, the chain should easily reach the cassette's largest cog. (Be careful not to overshoot and push the chain into the spokes!)

If the chain does indeed reach the largest cog, that tells you that the problem would likely be solved by replacing the index/friction shifter with a shifter from the pre-indexing era.

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Originally Posted by John E
Yes, Wien / Vienna, where the Capo bicycle company was founded in 1930 and resurrected by Otto Cap's son, Harald, ca. 1990. He is on top of the Vienna statehouse.
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one can only wonder how the heck they got him mounted up thar!

unlikely to have been helicopters extant at that epoch...

perhaps ein kranischer gigante


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Originally Posted by GeezyRider
I'm thinking of participating in this challenge so I started looking for suitable candidates. I came across a FB Marketplace ad for a "Burleigh road bicycle". I've come up empty trying to find information on this bike. Has anyone ever seen or heard of this bike before? Is it bike shop quality or was it sold at Toys R Us in 1970s? It appears to have a lugged frame and there is a downtube sticker that says "Chrome Molybdenum".

Here are a couple of images from the ad:



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Ach Du lederkrans!

Krautkraft im farben.

Perchance a perpetration of someone such as Kalkhoff...


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Tearing Down the Ross

I dismantled the Ross yesterday, cleaned the frame and components and applied a light coat of boiled linseed oil to the frame this morning.

Ross frame and fork wiped down with boiled linseed oil.

No polishing - just a basic cleaning.

During the tear down I determined a new headset, chain and rim strips were needed. Mucho Cheapo of course. I would normally opt for rim tape but there is that budget to consider.

Expenses so far:
Mucho Cheapo Ross - $10.00
Mucho Cheapo Neco headset - $9.90
Mucho Cheapo 7-speed chain - $9.96
Mucho Cheapo Amazon rim strips - $7.49

Mucho Cheapo expenses to date - $37.35
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Can I play? Frame up.

Started with 1982 AD SLE frame and fork with Tange headset.
Has shimano Hubs, freewheel, RD,crankset, BB,chainrings, brakes, levers,and shifters.
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re (It started with a part) I just had-to-get one of those 3-pulley derailleurs last November!
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Yup, the 2024 build is going to be weird, since it started that way.

A Swedish bike with French BB and ISO steerer. High quality tubes (Vitus 971) and lugs, yet crudely assembled.

The horrible paint removal of this tough stuff is nearly done. Next is the braze-ons; bottle cage mounts, shifter bosses, cable stop under the chainstay, and housing covers for internal routing of the rear brake cable.
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Clarification needed...

I've stalled out on this heap over multiple Clunker challenges:





The frame was picked out of a trash heap and the wheelset was $25.

EDIT: While I think I can bring it in under the mucho-cheapo budget the result will fit MUCH better in Frankenbike
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Originally Posted by hazetguy
I'm in! I guess I'll go for the "mucho cheapo" category again, although I'm going to feel a little bad because I know I'll be replacing some stuff with parts that have been in my possession for quite some time which adds $0 to the total.
Anyway....
I picked up a Motobecane Grand Record at the local bike thrift store a a couple weeks ago for $37.50 ($35 plus tax).
As purchased, loaded up at the thrift store:


Here is a "before" pic:


The only thing I've done to it up to this point was air up the extremely dry rotted tires and rode up and down my short driveway a couple times. I also gave hardware and some components some lube, in preparation for teardown during The Challenge timeframe. I'm happy The Challenge has begun, because I've been itching to get working on this.
I began disassembling some things today, the rack was the first thing to go!


Looks a bit like a bike I found last fall at my town's transfer station re-use table (except for it's a Huffy; might be my ride this year). Pics as-found, plus bonus pic of re-use table from up above....


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Why not… 1974 Schwinn Continental. Picked it up for $13. Was supposed to be a quick flip. The snowball started rolling with the chrome fork crown cap. The original was cracked. I found one on ebay. I paid a ridiculous $30. Evaporust, Bar Keepers friend, Flitz, clay bar, rubbing compound, liquid carnuba wax, new decals, Schwinn cables/housings, Hunt-Wilde bar tape, etc. I stopped keeping track after $100. Restoration? Close to being on the road again. The most over restored Schwinn on BF for the year award?










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Looks a bit like a bike I found last fall at my town's transfer station re-use table (except for it's a Huffy; might be my ride this year). Pics as-found, plus bonus pic of re-use table from up above....
I wish they had something like that where I live. The closest thing would be the people who set things out by the road a few days before trash day. The township has a large item collection a couple times a year, but everything goes straight in a dumpster. They have one for metal and another one for everything else. A couple weeks ago I was going past the township building while they were having a collection and I spotted a girl's bike hanging off the back of a truck as they turned in. A couple hours later, I was buying one at a flea market to fix up for my niece. It was a '92 Schwinn CrissCross for $20. I was scrambling to get it finished in time for my next trip over there and forgot to get a picture.
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Originally Posted by IdahoBrett
Why not… 1974 Schwinn Continental. Picked it up for $13. Was supposed to be a quick flip. The snowball started rolling...
Such a great color!!
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Originally Posted by RandolphCarter
Clarification needed...

I've stalled out on this heap over multiple Clunker challenges:

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The frame was picked out of a trash heap and the wheelset was $25.

EDIT: While I think I can bring it in under the mucho-cheapo budget the result will fit MUCH better in Frankenbike
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Originally Posted by IdahoBrett
Why not… 1974 Schwinn Continental. Picked it up for $13. Was supposed to be a quick flip. The snowball started rolling with the chrome fork crown cap. The original was cracked. I found one on ebay. I paid a ridiculous $30. Evaporust, Bar Keepers friend, Flitz, clay bar, rubbing compound, liquid carnuba wax, new decals, Schwinn cables/housings, Hunt-Wilde bar tape, etc. I stopped keeping track after $100. Restoration? Close to being on the road again. The most over restored Schwinn on BF for the year award?






I'm not certain if it is an artifact of the camera angle, or whether it's the positioning of the cap, or if the fork is truly a bit cock-eyed, but if you haven't already measured it, it couldn't hurt to check it.

That's not the absolute best condition that I've seen one of those in, but it's close to it.
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More Progress on the Fuji Finest

Frame is now ready for the build. In checking the frame before the final polish, I found that it needed to be cold set back to 120 from 126 and the hangar needed to be aligned. Pretty happy with how it came out. I’m no Jack Trumbull but this came out pretty sharp for a rattle can job. Good prep and a lot of sanding makes all the difference.

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Originally Posted by Sactown_Albert
Pretty happy with how it came out. I’m no Jack Trumbull but this came out pretty sharp for a rattle can job. Good prep and a lot of sanding makes all the difference.
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Frame is now ready for the build. In checking the frame before the final polish, I found that it needed to be cold set back to 120 from 126 and the hangar needed to be aligned. Pretty happy with how it came out. I’m no Jack Trumbull but this came out pretty sharp for a rattle can job. Good prep and a lot of sanding makes all the difference.
The frame is gorgeous as is the flooring in your home.
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Gotta love the vintage stuff!

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The frame is gorgeous as is the flooring in your home.
I like bikes of a certain age and houses, too!
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I'm not certain if it is an artifact of the camera angle, or whether it's the positioning of the cap, or if the fork is truly a bit cock-eyed, but if you haven't already measured it, it couldn't hurt to check it.

That's not the absolute best condition that I've seen one of those in, but it's close to it.
It must be the cap. At least I hope so. That was the cracked one. If I missed a tweaked fork again, I’ll be upset. Which usually leads to a man size temper tantrum. Those have been expensive in my experience…

Awaiting shipment of the last part. Some more housing for the derailleur cables. No pics from today. But I did set up the brakes. Then I realized I shoulda put the rear rack on first. Oops.

A full body shot from the other day just because:

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Originally Posted by IdahoBrett
Why not… 1974 Schwinn Continental. Picked it up for $13. Was supposed to be a quick flip. The snowball started rolling with the chrome fork crown cap. The original was cracked. I found one on ebay. I paid a ridiculous $30. Evaporust, Bar Keepers friend, Flitz, clay bar, rubbing compound, liquid carnuba wax, new decals, Schwinn cables/housings, Hunt-Wilde bar tape, etc. I stopped keeping track after $100. Restoration? Close to being on the road again. The most over restored Schwinn on BF for the year award?

Wow, that turned out freakin' nice!
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Originally Posted by Pompiere
I wish they had something like that where I live. The closest thing would be the people who set things out by the road a few days before trash day. The township has a large item collection a couple times a year, but everything goes straight in a dumpster. They have one for metal and another one for everything else. A couple weeks ago I was going past the township building while they were having a collection and I spotted a girl's bike hanging off the back of a truck as they turned in. A couple hours later, I was buying one at a flea market to fix up for my niece. It was a '92 Schwinn CrissCross for $20. I was scrambling to get it finished in time for my next trip over there and forgot to get a picture.
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Our small town does not provide for trash pickup. We bring ours to the town dump (transfer station).

We were once featured in a New York Times article!! https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/13/us/13dump.html

Back then, the re-use table was up top on the same level as the other disposal and recycling. After the table caught fire, they moved it to the area down below.
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Originally Posted by IdahoBrett
It must be the cap. At least I hope so. That was the cracked one. If I missed a tweaked fork again, I’ll be upset. Which usually leads to a man size temper tantrum. Those have been expensive in my experience…

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Actually, the cap was what I thought was most likely. Hope that's what it was.
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