Gios Torino Super Record Frame size 48cm,OK?
05-09-24, 12:33 AM
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Gios Torino Super Record Frame size 48cm,OK?
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I am between , 5'5 & 5'6 in height ,evenly proportioned, and wanted to know if a frame size of 48 cm is appropriate , on the bike mentioned. I am currently riding a bike that is a Motobecane 1978 of 53cm I find a little big for me, do you agree?. Also if a bike is ever so little too small, what can I do to optimize the size, raise the seat post and the handlebars? what else ?
I am between , 5'5 & 5'6 in height ,evenly proportioned, and wanted to know if a frame size of 48 cm is appropriate , on the bike mentioned. I am currently riding a bike that is a Motobecane 1978 of 53cm I find a little big for me, do you agree?. Also if a bike is ever so little too small, what can I do to optimize the size, raise the seat post and the handlebars? what else ?
05-09-24, 06:58 AM
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I think at that size the top tub may have slope. The fit may be better. Do you have pictures and measurements of the one that’s big that’s set up for you? What are the dimensions of the Gios?
05-09-24, 10:31 AM
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Sure. It will work. But the proportions for 48cm bikes are typically a bit wonky. I think 50cm would serve you better.
05-09-24, 04:28 PM
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This is what the bike looks like. I don't have it with me but I could ask the person to measure it it has it. I am probably closer to 55 . It's really difficult for me to find a bike of his quality in my size for a reasonable price so I probably will go with it if it will work . I don't have that much experience with trying different size bicycles. This one had one custom pedal because the original owner had one leg shorter than the other and I didn't really notice the petal, when riding it still felt pretty good but a little small maybe because of the weirdly different panel sizes, and I'm so used to a, big bike.
05-09-24, 06:06 PM
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Hi should've added your quote to my last post I now have the pictures thanks don't have measurements yet
05-12-24, 12:18 AM
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Yes I think it is wonky,......( Now that I looked at a few) the top tube seems longer than in other examples of the bike that are a larger frame size however this is a rare bike that I cannot readily choose much from my opportunities and I should like to grab a good thing when I find it even if it isn't ideal, I guess.
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Yes I think it is wonky,......( Now that I looked at a few) the top tube seems longer than in other examples of the bike that are a larger frame size however this is a rare bike that I cannot readily choose much from my opportunities and I should like to grab a good thing when I find it even if it isn't ideal, I guess.
05-12-24, 12:49 PM
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Yes I think it is wonky,......( Now that I looked at a few) the top tube seems longer than in other examples of the bike that are a larger frame size however this is a rare bike that I cannot readily choose much from my opportunities and I should like to grab a good thing when I find it even if it isn't ideal, I guess.
If you want an old Gios in your size, cast a wide net (CC, facebook, forums, ebay) and be patient. In the meantime buy an old lugged Fuji or something else of reasonable price and ride it as a place holder until the 55 Gios shows up.
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05-12-24, 01:10 PM
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I ride a 50/51 and have had 49s that felt weird. If you ride a 55, don't buy this. The price is due to the odd size.
If you want an old Gios in your size, cast a wide net (CC, facebook, forums, ebay) and be patient. In the meantime buy an old lugged Fuji or something else of reasonable price and ride it as a place holder until the 55 Gios shows up.
If you want an old Gios in your size, cast a wide net (CC, facebook, forums, ebay) and be patient. In the meantime buy an old lugged Fuji or something else of reasonable price and ride it as a place holder until the 55 Gios shows up.
05-12-24, 01:16 PM
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I am now riding a 53cm and it is a little big for me and heavier than I would ideally like. "have had 49s that felt weird" have you rode 49s that {{didn't}} feel wonky or not normal? Does the 49 necessarily have to feel a bit strange. This is a very top brand. As I stated in earlier I am about 5"5 so a small size could be very good . Perhaps I need another test drive.
You can make a 48 work, but usually it will still feel weird, even with the right stem length for your fit. Hard to describe.
You would ideally be on a 51 or 52, center to top. Is the 48 CTC or CTT?
05-12-24, 02:00 PM
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The price of the bike is $800 do you believe this to be a fair price for the brand and the frame size?
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And are those tubular tires?
To me, in this condition, this is like a $400 bike. But maybe I'm misjudging Gios value. I guess I would rather pay $1200 and get something with a better fit and condition - and maybe nicer parts.
A 51 or 52 will look nicer, too.
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I'd want to see the bike before I made any suggestions as to price, but I have to agree with those who have pointed out that the bike is too small for you. And given that you need a rear rack, you really should be looking for a different sort of bike entirely. There are plenty of well-made and suitable bikes out there that are the right size and have eyelets for a rack.
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I don't see anything wrong with putting a rack on a steel framed racing bike using a brake mount and with QR brackets or P-clips.
05-12-24, 11:20 PM
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Not to me. Unless Gios are much more valuable than I am aware of, I don't see how a bike of that era without a full Campagnolo group would be worth that much, especially in that small size.
And are those tubular tires?
To me, in this condition, this is like a $400 bike. But maybe I'm misjudging Gios value. I guess I would rather pay $1200 and get something with a better fit and condition - and maybe nicer parts.
A 51 or 52 will look nicer, too.
And are those tubular tires?
To me, in this condition, this is like a $400 bike. But maybe I'm misjudging Gios value. I guess I would rather pay $1200 and get something with a better fit and condition - and maybe nicer parts.
A 51 or 52 will look nicer, too.
I found a wonderful Gios in white but it was a 53 cm , just like my( Motobecane , that's too large} and that bike they're asking $1,400
I'm not advocating I am just wondering if I had to compromise? somewhere . I do agree that I must find the true value of this bike, so that if I do wanna part with it I'll be able to recoup most of or all of my money.
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05-12-24, 11:25 PM
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You said "I am probably closer to 55", so I thought you were saying that is your size. But I see the OP says 5'5".
You can make a 48 work, but usually it will still feel weird, even with the right stem length for your fit. Hard to describe.
You would ideally be on a 51 or 52, center to top. Is the 48 CTC or CTT?
You can make a 48 work, but usually it will still feel weird, even with the right stem length for your fit. Hard to describe.
You would ideally be on a 51 or 52, center to top. Is the 48 CTC or CTT?
05-13-24, 04:28 AM
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CTC = "center to center" = measured from the center of the bottom bracket circle to the point of intersection of the seat tube and top tube. At one time, most Italian companies stated their frame sizes this way.
CTT = "center to top" = measured from the center of the bottom bracket circle to the point of insertion of the seatpost. This is the more commonly used measurement. (Different companies have used small variations, including, e.g., measurement to the top of the front of the seat lug on lugged frames. But the differences in the resulting measurements were pretty small.)
CTT = "center to top" = measured from the center of the bottom bracket circle to the point of insertion of the seatpost. This is the more commonly used measurement. (Different companies have used small variations, including, e.g., measurement to the top of the front of the seat lug on lugged frames. But the differences in the resulting measurements were pretty small.)
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It does have a full "l Campagnolo group" everything on it is, that I can see is Campagnolo. "are those tubular tires"? yes . I appreciate your input looking at it with the information I just left you, how might it have changed your opinion? These bikes are pretty hard to find, I think ,and a small bike can we worked with,... to a certain extent. I see old pictures of racing bikes and their riders they all look very much on the small side just mentioning this I have a little experience.
I found a wonderful Gios in white but it was a 53 cm , just like my( Motobecane , that's too large} and that bike they're asking $1,400
I'm not advocating I am just wondering if I had to compromise? somewhere . I do agree that I must find the true value of this bike, so that if I do wanna part with it I'll be able to recoup most of or all of my money.
I found a wonderful Gios in white but it was a 53 cm , just like my( Motobecane , that's too large} and that bike they're asking $1,400
I'm not advocating I am just wondering if I had to compromise? somewhere . I do agree that I must find the true value of this bike, so that if I do wanna part with it I'll be able to recoup most of or all of my money.
05-13-24, 02:57 PM
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Here is a Visual comparison between a frame I found in 50cm and the bike I am considering in 48cm I don't think there is anything wonky looking. The top tubes look to me similarly proportioned. one is just smaller than the other and considering the fine brand it is , perhaps they reduced the size in the best way one can .
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ctc = "center to center" = measured from the center of the bottom bracket circle to the point of intersection of the seat tube and top tube. At one time, most italian companies stated their frame sizes this way.
Ctt = "center to top" = measured from the center of the bottom bracket circle to the point of insertion of the seatpost. This is the more commonly used measurement. (different companies have used small variations, including, e.g., measurement to the top of the front of the seat lug on lugged frames. But the differences in the resulting measurements were pretty small.)
Ctt = "center to top" = measured from the center of the bottom bracket circle to the point of insertion of the seatpost. This is the more commonly used measurement. (different companies have used small variations, including, e.g., measurement to the top of the front of the seat lug on lugged frames. But the differences in the resulting measurements were pretty small.)
