I brought this box of lugs for a dollar, just for fun.
I'm a bit of a "luggite" so I might display some in the office.
If some of you would like to send me a non-refundable $1,000 deposit, I'll call you in a few years when I start making frames 🤣

My kinda fun!

The one that's top/center is a Haden Firefly. I used those on the very first frame I built (1977), so it's a sentimental fave of mine. They were very old even back then, '50s maybe, given to me by a collector.

The ones with the 3-sided cutouts, attached to a headtube, are Prugnat S4. They're fairly accurate in the fit, and nicely thin, which made them popular for high-end frames BITD. But they lost most of their market share when IC lugs became the norm, early '80s. Nothing wrong with them IMHO but they are more work to make them look super nice, if you need the "super".

I see at least one crown for D-section blades. Unfortunately D-section blades are going to be difficult to find, so those may be paperweights.

Having that box of expendable cheap lugs will be a huge benefit if you decide to try building. You can braze practice joints, then break them in a vise with cheaterbars, and cut cross-sections to check your braze penetration.

Be sure to let us know if you start down that path, we like pictures and we promise to be supportive.

I recall that Doug Fattic has some of the blades.

Bergz those lugs are a great resource if you want to learn how to make frames. I bought a similar box of old, mismatched lugs a few years ago. Before ever building a complete bike, I spent several sessions cleaning and filing the lugs, then brazing them into place on sections of old tubing. Then I'd cut them apart to see if I was getting the brazing material to fully penetrate through the joint. It helped me develop a feel for brazing before taking on a complete frame build.

Thanks for your comments and identification of some of the lugs. You'll be relieved to know I have no intention to build frames but have added braze ons and other modifications to bikes I own. I really like lugs with cut-outs and interesting shapes, my Woodrup has the Prugnat S4 pattern lugs.

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Those are some very cool looking lugs. I can’t remember ever seeing one with a 3 sided cutout and I have been around bicycles for a long time.

Respectfully, I think you must have seen them, they were quite common for a while there.

fromgugie showing his (Carlton) Raleigh Professional with them.

They were used on some iterations of the Team Pro too, at the SBDU frame shop.


from Brian Chapman.

I could never list all the bikes they came on because they were legion.

Oh yeah here's my box of lugs:


...except those aren't all the lugs I have!
I may have a hoarding problem...

You Win!

If those are complete sets of nervex lugs in the boxes, you may be able to fund your retirement if you put them on ebay. I hate to say how much I spent on a set of Nervex Pro lugs, and it didn't even include the bb shell.

It seems that prices have gone down, not that I keep a finger on the puse, just from a few ebay sales.
I only have a few matching BB shells but I have sold sets of 3 lugs a few times, I think $125/set was my asking, and not many takers. Offer still stands, shipping extra at cost..

One younger builder, who'd only used IC lugs previously, agreed to make a Nervex custom and got the lugs from me, but then regretted agreeing to do it! He said "never again", the welded lugs were just too much work for him, poor bably!

How much work did Peogeot put into a PX-10 with those? Or my '71 Raleigh Super Course, that I bought new off the showroom floor in '71 for $112. I'd be surprised if they even degreased them before brazing.

Kids these days...

Selling old lugs and funding retirement? where do I start!

The insides of the Pros I bought were well machined, and the welds had full penetration. That was somewhat unusual back then. The outside was awful though. I have spent hours on them, and I'm still not happy. I got them because of a weird form of nostalgia. I really disliked them when I was a teenager, too old fashioned for me.