Can you help me recognize this frame?
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I thought I knew what it was until the bottom bracket underside....haha.
After seeing it...Bottecchia?
Also, the seat tube lug cutout looks like a rose rather than the V of the head tube lug. Aero levers...1980s...?
After seeing it...Bottecchia?
Also, the seat tube lug cutout looks like a rose rather than the V of the head tube lug. Aero levers...1980s...?
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IDK but is the 58 the size? Looks like the shift cables go into the downtube. The rear one comes out the right chainstay. Where does the front one emerge?
Try putting in cups - is the BB British thread? Italian?
Try putting in cups - is the BB British thread? Italian?
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Dang. @Maurice Moss to the rescue once again!
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I don't think so; not the OP's frame, at any rate. The OP's frame shows the serial number format used by Olmo, like this:



While it's possible West Coast Cycle contracted both Olmo and Viner to make the Cervino, I would be surprised if there were two contractors involved, given how few of those frames exist.
I'm aware of only one Cervino with Viner decals and that's the frame from classiccycleus.com that made its way to bikesnobnyc.com. Neither goes into any detail of why they think it's made by Viner and, since neither shows any pics of the bottom bracket, it's impossible to say what the origin of that frame is. Also, classiccycleus.com calls Nishiki a "Japanese bike company," so I'm taking the Viner claim (despite the decals) with a grain of salt.
Of about a dozen Cervinos I've seen, they've all had Olmo serial numbers, so I would be very surprised if bikesnobnyc's frame had a Viner style bb shell.
Viner, as far as I know didn't use serials but stamped the dimensions along the opposite edges of the bb shell (at least during the Portacatena years), like this:

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I'm aware of only one Cervino with Viner decals and that's the frame from classiccycleus.com that made its way to bikesnobnyc.com. Neither goes into any detail of why they think it's made by Viner and, since neither shows any pics of the bottom bracket, it's impossible to say what the origin of that frame is. Also, classiccycleus.com calls Nishiki a "Japanese bike company," so I'm taking the Viner claim (despite the decals) with a grain of salt.
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Good job finding that shot. Yep, that looks like an Olmo number. Not sure why the Viner decals made their way onto that frame. Maybe the Olmo name still carried that stigma of being called the Schwinn of Italy?
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I asked Eben for it 
He mentioned it in this blog post: https://bikesnobnyc.com/2024/08/09/b...et/#more-28894

He mentioned it in this blog post: https://bikesnobnyc.com/2024/08/09/b...et/#more-28894























