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RustyJames 09-23-24 12:27 PM

Cable clamps - advice
 
This may seem a bit silly but I’m looking for top tube cable clamps - NOS, prefer French or Italian - and are there any brands that I should seek or avoid? I HATE cheap hardware FWIW.

Yeah, I know, It’s just a silly clamp but aesthetics matter for this application. I saw some REG clamps on eBay that look right but if the screw or nut are kinda flimsy it would be a hard pass.

satbuilder 09-23-24 02:16 PM

Campagnolo and Simplex are two that come to mind.

CroMo Mike 09-23-24 04:51 PM

Find nos Campy.. Pay $40. Find nos Dia Comp, almost as good.

juvela 09-23-24 04:55 PM

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REG (Rampinelli) be near the bottom o' me totem pole

Freres Huret are nicely made and have the attractive cutout


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RustyJames 09-23-24 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by CroMo Mike (Post 23356111)
Find nos Campy.. Pay $40. Find nos Dia Comp, almost as good.

…except they have the DC logo etched into the raised area. I have no beef with DiaCompe products (they’re often excellent) but on a bike equipped with much Campy and Mafac brakes, kinda out of place.

RustyJames 09-23-24 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by juvela (Post 23356112)
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REG (Rampinelli) be near the bottom o' me totem pole

Freres Huret are nicely made and have the attractive cutout


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Noted and added to the watch list. Many thanks!

bulgie 09-23-24 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by satbuilder (Post 23356021)
Campagnolo and Simplex are two that come to mind.

But be aware that Simplex were probably* made for French diameter TT, which is larger than English/Italian. Not sure they'll tighten on an inch TT (don't remember)
* maybe they made them in inch size too, but all I've seen were French.

Jargon request: can we try to call these housing clamps? Cable clamps clamp cables, like at the brake or the straddle yoke.

I'm also on a crusade to stamp out the term "cable stop". There are housing stops, and there are cable guides, but there are no cable stops, that I know of.

noglider 09-23-24 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by bulgie (Post 23356241)
But be aware that Simplex were probably* made for French diameter TT, which is larger than English/Italian. Not sure they'll tighten on an inch TT (don't remember)
* maybe they made them in inch size too, but all I've seen were French.

Jargon request: can we try to call these housing clamps? Cable clamps clamp cables, like at the brake or the straddle yoke.

I'm also on a crusade to stamp out the term "cable stop". There are housing stops, and there are cable guides, but there are no cable stops, that I know of.

Haha, I'll join you in your word purification quest. It's an effort made in vain, but I do it anyway. The little balls in bearings: people call them ball bearings, but I call them bearing balls. Please join me. And there is no such thing as something that is very unique. Unique means one-of-a-kind, and you can't get closer to one than one. Something is either unique, or it is not. Nothing is more unique than another thing.

But where do you stand on the term bottom bracket? The term originally referred to the lug, aka bracket, at the bottom of the frame. The cups-balls-and-axle assembly are a bearing, not a bracket.

See (and contribute to) my bicycle misnomenclature thread.

randyjawa 09-23-24 07:57 PM

Got three sets of NOS top tube cable clamps. Campy and Shimano, as I recall. Even know exactly where they are. I have Simplex and Reg also, but not sure if they are NOS. I should take a look just to see what is in that drawer...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...68d646fac1.jpg


jdawginsc 09-23-24 08:14 PM

Campagnolo housing clamps never look out of place and usually shine up well.

RustyJames 09-23-24 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by bulgie (Post 23356241)
But be aware that Simplex were probably* made for French diameter TT, which is larger than English/Italian. Not sure they'll tighten on an inch TT (don't remember)
* maybe they made them in inch size too, but all I've seen were French.

Jargon request: can we try to call these housing clamps? Cable clamps clamp cables, like at the brake or the straddle yoke.

I'm also on a crusade to stamp out the term "cable stop". There are housing stops, and there are cable guides, but there are no cable stops, that I know of.

Good call on the TT OD.

I think you’re fighting an uphill battle on the cable/housing thing but I commend your efforts Mark. I’m still irked about clipping in to clipless pedals but that is a discussion for Tom’s thread.

RustyJames 09-23-24 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by randyjawa (Post 23356281)
Got three sets of NOS top tube cable clamps. Campy and Shimano, as I recall. Even know exactly where they are. I have Simplex and Reg also, but not sure if they are NOS. I should take a look just to see what is in that drawer...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...68d646fac1.jpg

I would definitely be interested in the Campy pieces. PM me.


Originally Posted by jdawginsc (Post 23356292)
Campagnolo housing clamps never look out of place and usually shine up well.

Again, we are in accord Dave.

bulgie 09-23-24 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by jdawginsc (Post 23356292)
Campagnolo housing clamps never look out of place and usually shine up well.

Yep. Older ones were chrome-plated, newer ones went to stainless, anyone remember when that switchover happened?

oneclick 09-24-24 02:32 AM

There are no-name stainless housing clamps on that auction site, they are ok but one edge has a bit of stamping flash, they need 5 minutes attention with a riffler fie..

Also got some NOS AGPA chromed steel from the same place, they are good enough:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...54749e19fa.jpg

merziac 09-24-24 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by RustyJames (Post 23356121)
…except they have the DC logo etched into the raised area. I have no beef with DiaCompe products (they’re often excellent) but on a bike equipped with much Campy and Mafac brakes, kinda out of place.

I have some DC's the wire wheel buzzed the etching right off and they look great. ;)

Prowler 09-24-24 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23356251)
Haha, I'll join you in your word purification quest. It's an effort made in vain, but I do it anyway. The little balls in bearings: people call them ball bearings, but I call them bearing balls. Please join me. And there is no such thing as something that is very unique. Unique means one-of-a-kind, and you can't get closer to one than one. Something is either unique, or it is not. Nothing is more unique than another thing.

But where do you stand on the term bottom bracket? The term originally referred to the lug, aka bracket, at the bottom of the frame. The cups-balls-and-axle assembly are a bearing, not a bracket.

YOU OLD FART! I agree. And I still drive across “the bridge at Tappan Zee” and always will. Forget that other name, wadeveritiz. Old farts unite!!!

OK, OK. I can live with EZPass and removal of those Tarrytown toll booths, though.

randyjawa 09-24-24 06:42 AM

Well, I had a look and then I took a shot, or two for you. If interested, anyone in any set, I will post on the For Sale forum and try to price reasonably...

DuraAce - not NOS but nice...
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8d65a34fdd.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...53cb396519.jpg

Shimano NOS - 3 sets, 2 still packaged...
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5794563910.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be4f4a03f8.jpg

Hurett - not perfect but I would clean up and use...
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2140b5ef45.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8e01e1d175.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3cf0c226e9.jpg

Campagnolo Old School - all five and three in the middle are pretty nice...
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6031bdc994.jpg


Steel Charlie 09-24-24 07:56 AM

Dura Ace are easily the best ever made.

Simple fact ..... Not JMO

Bianchi84 09-24-24 09:33 AM

Just kidding, but Zip Tie is missing an untapped market for a "chromed" version!

randyjawa 09-24-24 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Steel Charlie (Post 23356525)
Dura Ace are easily the best ever made.

Simple fact ..... Not JMO

Indeed, the DA clamps are much nicer, in appearance, ease of installation and function (not sure about the function thing, though).

Classtime 09-24-24 10:09 AM

The Simplex, Campy, and Huret in my posession are still shiny.


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