Original W.F. Holdsworth
#1
Thread Starter
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 230
Likes: 170
Original W.F. Holdsworth
Found this at the local coop and am skeptical it is an original. Can't find any images of Holdsworth's with bi-plane forks or matching graphics. The decals seem to good. Maybe a respray? It has track drop outs. I will go back for more images if needed, serial number etc. Thanks!








#2
A lovely looking frame!
It's almost certainly not the original finish though it probably is actually a Cyclone. According to the Holdsworth catalogues, they were built with Nervex Pro lugs between 1955-58.
Holdsworth Cyclone
-Gregory
It's almost certainly not the original finish though it probably is actually a Cyclone. According to the Holdsworth catalogues, they were built with Nervex Pro lugs between 1955-58.
Holdsworth Cyclone
-Gregory
#4
Thread Starter
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 230
Likes: 170
#5
-----
Hello Vittorio,
excellent find
certainly appears to be what it purports to be
has seat stay bridge been drilled?
do the track ends wear a tab?
shall look forward to following along should you elect to opt in...
-----
Hello Vittorio,
excellent find
certainly appears to be what it purports to be
has seat stay bridge been drilled?
do the track ends wear a tab?
shall look forward to following along should you elect to opt in...

-----
#7
Thread Starter
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 230
Likes: 170

#9
Senior Member




Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 16,082
Likes: 9,440
From: PDX
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
I'm no expert but a big fan of Holdsworth.
The fork may have been custom on this or a one off or.....
It looks the part and is cool as heck, it could be better if a replacement or special order or again......
The pic of the 49, 50 and 51 track show a twin plate crown that seems to be cleaner but no Nervex Pro lugs.
Many of these were ridden daily and to the races on the weekends so it may have been speced with this crown/fork for stoutness of the day.
I would get back to it and scoop it up if close enough to your size post haste.
I like mystery frames like this with a seeming story weather it comes out or not, good possibility to have a one off.
Make it so.
Last edited by merziac; 12-17-24 at 02:49 PM.
#10
Newbie

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 31
Likes: 22
From: near Valkenburg southern Netherlands
Bikes: Home made
Forkcrown
I think the forkcrown is a Hetchins Twin plate.
I have a drawing of it on my website Velofilie https://www.velofilie.nl/13/13b

I have a drawing of it on my website Velofilie https://www.velofilie.nl/13/13b

#11
Thread Starter
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 230
Likes: 170
I think the forkcrown is a Hetchins Twin plate.
I have a drawing of it on my website Velofilie https://www.velofilie.nl/13/13b

I have a drawing of it on my website Velofilie https://www.velofilie.nl/13/13b

#12
Senior Member




Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 16,082
Likes: 9,440
From: PDX
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
I think the forkcrown is a Hetchins Twin plate.
I have a drawing of it on my website Velofilie https://www.velofilie.nl/13/13b

I have a drawing of it on my website Velofilie https://www.velofilie.nl/13/13b

#14
Wheelman
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 1,635
Likes: 1,594
From: Putney, London UK
Bikes: 1982 Holdsworth Avanti (531), 1961 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1953 Holdsworth Whirlwind
I'm fairly sure there will be a serial number on the steerer.
There's one on my 1953 Whirlwind and my 1961 Cyclone.
Should match the frame serial:
Date from frame serial numbers: https://www.nkilgariff.com/FrameNosTemp.htm
There's one on my 1953 Whirlwind and my 1961 Cyclone.
Should match the frame serial:
1953 Whirlwind - NDS dropout
1961 Cyclone - BB
.1961 Cyclone - BB
Date from frame serial numbers: https://www.nkilgariff.com/FrameNosTemp.htm
#15
Wheelman
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 1,635
Likes: 1,594
From: Putney, London UK
Bikes: 1982 Holdsworth Avanti (531), 1961 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1953 Holdsworth Whirlwind
It looks a lot like this one: Holdsworth track/path ID help needed
If it's really a Cyclone then it's 1952 or earlier - after that the track/path version was Zephyr
If it's really a Cyclone then it's 1952 or earlier - after that the track/path version was Zephyr
#16
As per the original Holdsworth catalogues scanned in the link I provided above, the Cyclone model could still be has as a road or path version and came equipped with these Nervex Pro lugs only between 1955-58.
#17
Thread Starter
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 230
Likes: 170
It looks a lot like this one: Holdsworth track/path ID help needed
If it's really a Cyclone then it's 1952 or earlier - after that the track/path version was Zephyr
If it's really a Cyclone then it's 1952 or earlier - after that the track/path version was Zephyr
#18
Thread Starter
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 230
Likes: 170
Saw the frame yesterday. Still very pretty...and definitely do think it is original with a respray and new decals. I am going to pass for now. it seems expensive and I currently don't have a good set of wheels for its 120 spacing. good luck to anyone wanting to decipher the serial number...


#19
here’s another possible holdsworth that shares that fork crown.
but it seems like that crown also sat on dick powers, which is what I assume this one is.

but it seems like that crown also sat on dick powers, which is what I assume this one is.

#20
vintage motor


Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,786
Likes: 349
From: Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico
Bikes: 48 Automoto, 49 Stallard, 50 Rotrax, 62 Jack Taylor, 67 Atala, 68 Lejeune, 72-74-75 Motobecanes, 73 RIH, 71 Zieleman, 74 Raleigh, 78 Windsor, 83 Messina (Villata), 84 Brazzo (Losa), 85 Davidson, 90 Diamondback, 92 Kestrel
Just how expensive are we talking about?
#22
Thread Starter
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 230
Likes: 170
here’s another possible holdsworth that shares that fork crown.
but it seems like that crown also sat on dick powers, which is what I assume this one is.

but it seems like that crown also sat on dick powers, which is what I assume this one is.

The second bike, the Dick Powers, does not have wrap over seat stays so I think it can be eliminated for an exact match.
Thanks!
Last edited by gazman22; 12-20-24 at 05:38 PM.






