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Old 01-12-25 | 05:52 PM
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Hole In The Head -Epilogue

I built up a LeMond Zurich frame last Summer, using a 7410 Dura Ace groupset I had that was just sitting in a box, unused. It took me a while to get it right - mostly the saddle fore-aft, because somehow, the saddle rails were creeping in the seatpost cradle and I'd end up farther and farther back the longer I rode. I finally have that problem licked!

Normally, when I finish a build to my satisfaction, I take the bike for one of my Sunday rides - 59 miles, 3300 feet of climbing. I hadn't done this with the LeMond yet, because of the slipping saddle rails issue, plus illnesses, injuries, etc. I figured with the saddle problem solved it was time. Whenever I do these "initiation into the herd" rides, I stop at Frenchman's Tower on Old Page Mill in Palo Alto for a picture. See below...




The whole "initiation ride" thing reminded me of this Far Side cartoon -


So, how was it? Well, I built it to exemplify bikes of the mid 90s, and it does that, right down to every hill >4% being a low-cadence slog! Apart from that, the 30 year old Dura Ace kit still works a treat, and is beautiful to boot. Another rider actually complimented me on the crankset!
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You know, they did have triples and long-cage rear derailleurs in the 1990s. Just sayin' . . . .

Beautiful bike. I don't doubt that it's a lot of fun to ride.
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You know, they did have triples and long-cage rear derailleurs in the 1990s. Just sayin' . . . .

Beautiful bike. I don't doubt that it's a lot of fun to ride.
Hell, Giovanni Battaglin used a triple to win the Giro back in 1981.

But 7410 Dura Ace didn't come with triples, so......
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Hell, Giovanni Battaglin used a triple to win the Giro back in 1981.

But 7410 Dura Ace didn't come with triples, so......
Tripleizer would take care of that nicely, plus a 5mm wider BB and maybe a hanger extender for the RD to use cogs larger than 30t.
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Didn't we just see @merziac's Dura-Ace cranks modified to be triples in a recent thread?
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Didn't we just see @merziac's Dura-Ace cranks modified to be triples in a recent thread?
Yes, the 7200 Dura Ace EX with the off center spider. A dream build in my head has the black first gen Dura Ace crank drilled for a triple (maybe on a nice early AD Vent Noir).

I really don't like the looks of the 7400 Crankset. The 7410 is vastly superior to my eye, maybe my favorite DA Crankset.
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That’s a great looking build! Yeah that crankset is pretty, I put the same one on my Paramount.
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Yes, the 7200 Dura Ace EX with the off center spider. A dream build in my head has the black first gen Dura Ace crank drilled for a triple (maybe on a nice early AD Vent Noir).

I really don't like the looks of the 7400 Crankset. The 7410 is vastly superior to my eye, maybe my favorite DA Crankset.
Indeed, it is the prettiest crankset ever made. So, it will NOT be triplized!
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Indeed, it is the prettiest crankset ever made. So, it will NOT be triplized!
The "tripleizer" doesn't change the cranks themselves. It's a chainring that mounts in hte inner position of a double-ring crankset, that then itself allows you to mount another small chainring inside of it:
https://www.redclovercomponents.com/...riplizers.html
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... or do what I have done on four occasions: use extra-long chainring bolts. This won't give you as small a granny ring as a tripleizer would, but it can work extremely well when coupled with larger cogs in back.
On 144mm BCD cranks, I have done 49-46-43 / 13-16-19-23-26, for a very nice 1/3-step progression.
On 110mm BCD cranks, I was very happy with my 48-45-34 / 13-15-17-19-21-24.
All of these were done with standard short-cage derailleurs, but could easily be extended to 7 or 8 speeds with additional larger cogs in back and a long-cage. I am strongly considering this for the Carlton.
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Thanks for the ideas, guys, but the whole point of this bike is to be what it is. I wanted those specific components, just as they are. I have other bikes for climbing.
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