Shift/brake inner wires, which to get... or avoid?
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Especially with shifters that latch into position instead of simply having an index detent (such as earlier Ergolevers), if the Lo-limit screw is set on the tight side, then each time that the largest rear cog is engaged, the cable gets over-tensioned which accelerates the fatigue cycle to failure of the cable. This gets worse on frames having exposed cable routing (where cyclic frame flexing translated into cyclic cable over-tension, leading to strand failure).
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I have a nasty habit of trying to reuse stuff where I can, and I use this technique often. Re-twist the frayed end, and it usually stays good enough to feed through the housing. If it tends to hang up, you can spin/rotate the housing as you feed the cable -- this helps it find its way through. Once you get the frayed end through, you're fine, as the rest of the cable slides very nicely. I never used to lubricate cable or housing, but tried it after watching several BikeFarmer videos on YouTube and Triflow does indeed seem to do a great job keeping that cable and housing slicker-than-snot-on-a-door-knob.
I've had luck with brake cables lasting if they are cared for and lubricated. I've got one bike still running its original double-ended cables, which are just shy of 80 years old. They work fine. (Triflow helped those as well).
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Agreed on Jagwire. Have not used Shimano yet. Let's see if the Alligator cables are worthwhile.
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Jagwire is my preferred stuff.
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I skimmed through this thread but did not see an important bit of info. Campagnolo shifters (and thus cables) use a smaller head. The cables for Shimano, etc, have a head that either will not fit into the shift lever recess or will jam in so tightly as to be hard or impossible to remove. I always keep a few genuine Campagnolo cables on hand for that reason
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I skimmed through this thread but did not see an important bit of info. Campagnolo shifters (and thus cables) use a smaller head. The cables for Shimano, etc, have a head that either will not fit into the shift lever recess or will jam in so tightly as to be hard or impossible to remove. I always keep a few genuine Campagnolo cables on hand for that reason
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As for the not seeing an important bit of info. Not sure I would agree with that, considering that you did just share an important piece of information. Tough many Bike Forum members have seen/hear/read this or that, time and again, there will always be the first time user who does seek information. Wish I had know to use nylon lined casings coupled with teflon coated stainless steel cables when I got started. That said, the old school cable/casings did not last forever. More than once, a vintage road bike has reached me with cables so corroded, inside and out, that they were seized into place. Just something to consider even though it does not happen often.
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