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Bottom bracket cutout
Here it is, I was posed this question. Who is the manufacturer that does the fish.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d98957cb.jpeg This cut out is on a fixie project of someone at the local bike stop. |
Eisentraut?
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Gary Fisher? Waterford?
Just kidding. I don’t know who the offishial maker is. |
Originally Posted by jdawginsc
(Post 23550165)
Gary Fisher? Waterford?
Just kidding. I don’t know who the offishial maker is. |
Barracuda?
Betta? |
Originally Posted by Mr. 66
(Post 23550141)
Here it is, I was posed this question. Who is the manufacturer that does the fish.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d98957cb.jpeg This cut out is on a fixie project of someone at the local bike stop. I can't make out anything recognizable: animal, vegetable or mineral, except it's blurry. Most likely a "personal expression one-off" |
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AH! ^ Now that's a fish!
and now I can sort of see the resemblance...but no shell cut-out I ever saw on a "major brand" Check out the long series of pix in this "drain holes" thread and see it there's something I missed: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ain-holes.html |
Sounds like another fish story.
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If it is an Eisentraut (and that's a big "if"), then there's a good chance it's a Rainbow 'Traut, Those went out under the Eisentraut name but were a joint effort along with Albert and Ed Litton - a Rainbow 'Traut could have been built by one, the other, or maybe even both of them. Not a bad lineage. Albert and Ed also both made customs under their own names during the Rainbow era.
BTW, although Ed worked with Albert, he did not learn frame building from Albert - Ed learned from Bernie Mikkelson. I got this directly from Ed himself, so I'm pretty confident about my source. |
Another thought - There was a small operation (husband and wife) that made Coho (as in salmon) frames for a few years maybe 20 years ago or so. I saw them at one or two NAHBSes. They were very nice, and tended to toward the randonneuring side of things. I will say that the TIG welding on the BB shell makes it less likely to be either a Rainbow 'Traut or a Coho, methinks (and if I'm wrong in that surmise, I'm sure someone will be along shortly to give me my comeuppance :D).
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don't know much about Albert's line of "Rainbow Trauts" but FWIW the head tube decal looks nothing like the mystery BB shell cut-out.
Plus I've never seen any Eisentraut made frame (of any model or vintage) that had a Tig-welded BB shell... https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc2c52677a.png from a BF thread on a 1987 Rainbow "Traut" |
Maybe it’s Starkist….It looks like it could be Charlie the tuna….
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9e413247a.jpeg |
Originally Posted by bikingshearer
(Post 23550318)
If it is an Eisentraut (and that's a big "if"), then there's a good chance it's a Rainbow 'Traut, Those went out under the Eisentraut name but were a joint effort along with Albert and Ed Litton - a Rainbow 'Traut could have been built by one, the other, or maybe even both of them. Not a bad lineage. Albert and Ed also both made customs under their own names during the Rainbow era.
BTW, although Ed worked with Albert, he did not learn frame building from Albert - Ed learned from Bernie Mikkelson. I got this directly from Ed himself, so I'm pretty confident about my source. |
Originally Posted by rando_couche
(Post 23550351)
FWIW, my Rainbow does not have a bb cutout of any description. AND... the only Eisentrauts I've seen with bb cutouts have a cursive "E". AND... the pictured cutout doesn't look much like a trout of any variety; more of a bass.
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Originally Posted by gearbasher
(Post 23550407)
Maybe a Basso. LOL
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lol, the best I could come up with was Fishlips. I didn’t see anything under that in a web searching.
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It's likely a Percheot
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Gary Fisher did have a fish logo but it wasn’t like that.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ab44afc59.jpeg |
Originally Posted by rando_couche
(Post 23550351)
FWIW, my Rainbow does not have a bb cutout of any description. AND... the only Eisentrauts I've seen with bb cutouts have a cursive "E". AND... the pictured cutout doesn't look much like a trout of any variety; more of a bass.
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