What to do with vintage cables?
#1
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: May 2026
Posts: 23
Likes: 12
What to do with vintage cables?
I am going to service and make rideable a Schwinn volare that was abandoned with virtually zero miles and assuming I like and ride it enough, I will be later probably cosmetically restoring it since it looks like it was pebbled by concrete. The cables and housings look good, great in fact, so I'm not really wanting to replace them. However, I'm seeing advice not to lubricate cables, which on modern lined units I can understand. These are from 1977, on a bike with dura Ace, but still 1977, which I'm seeing people say are unlined and require lubrication. Please advise.
#2
If the housings are unlined, then you will want to use a light layer of grease.
It sounds like you might not be sure that the housing is unlined, though. If so, you should be able to look into the end of the housing and see the lining (after removing the cable, of course).
Steve in Peoria
It sounds like you might not be sure that the housing is unlined, though. If so, you should be able to look into the end of the housing and see the lining (after removing the cable, of course).
Steve in Peoria
#3
Senior Member



Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 5,821
Likes: 3,397
From: Los Angeles
Bikes: 82 Medici, 85 Ironman, 2011 Richard Sachs
I’ve been advised, and I think it works well to take some grease (Phil’s) and a few drops of Tri-Flo and mix it up between your thumb and fore finger and then massage that into those C&V cables.
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs. But I do hate all e-bikes.
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs. But I do hate all e-bikes.
#4
Senior Member




Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 10,335
Likes: 9,923
From: Utah
Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super,Lemond Maillot Juane.& custom,PDG Paramount,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,
Personally, I've found it worth the effort to switch to modern cables and housings if it's a rider bike. Everything just seems to work much better with the advances in these items.
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
Steel is real...and comfy.
#5
Senior Member

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 2,962
Likes: 1,830
From: Long Island, NY
Bikes: Trek 800 x 2, Schwinn Heavy Duti, Schwinn Traveler, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Schwinn Continental, Cannondale M400 and Lambert, Schwinn Super Sport
If those are the original cable housings then they are not lined. Standard practice with unlined cables, as others have noted, is to apply grease to the cable and try to keep the cable off the floor once greased. I'm only adding that about keeping it off the floor because I've done it and then I have to clean the dust and debris off the cable and relube it.
If later you decide to go with modern Teflon lined cable housings, I use Jagwire Ice Grey since it is close to the grey that Schwinn used. Not a match, but close enough for me.
If later you decide to go with modern Teflon lined cable housings, I use Jagwire Ice Grey since it is close to the grey that Schwinn used. Not a match, but close enough for me.
#6
Senior Member




Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,768
Likes: 3,791
From: Chicago
Bikes: '69 Raleigh Sports '72 Cinelli Super Corsa '78 Motobecane Le Champion '84 Schwinn High Sierra '85 Trek 830 '88 Merckx Team ADR Corsa Extra
I usually go the lube route to get a bike back on the road. If performance is fine, I'll keep the old cables. Most of the time I've wound up going with new cables and housing, though. Congrats on the Volare.
__________________
#7
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: May 2026
Posts: 23
Likes: 12
Thank you. I'm just looking to get it on the road for now. I'm already probably $200 into parts refreshing a cosmetically beat bike, so they'll probably get replaced if I ride it often. They are red, though, and there are not many options for red... Does jag make red?
#8
aka Tom Reingold




Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 44,225
Likes: 6,484
From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
I would rub grease on the cable and drop oil into the housing.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#9
Senior Member

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 2,962
Likes: 1,830
From: Long Island, NY
Bikes: Trek 800 x 2, Schwinn Heavy Duti, Schwinn Traveler, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Schwinn Continental, Cannondale M400 and Lambert, Schwinn Super Sport
#10
Senior Member

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,214
Likes: 90
Amen--I was a working bike mechanic from 1974 to 2022. Modern cables are much better, I like SRAM and Jagwire.
#11
Old fart



Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 26,383
Likes: 5,303
From: Appleton WI
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
Agreed. Modern cables are also often die-drawn, which also improves smooth actuation in the lined housing. Depending on the shifters being used, some modification of the cable end may be necessary to fit vintage levers.
#12
Old fart



Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 26,383
Likes: 5,303
From: Appleton WI
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
#14
aka Tom Reingold




Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 44,225
Likes: 6,484
From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#15
Senior Member




Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,768
Likes: 3,791
From: Chicago
Bikes: '69 Raleigh Sports '72 Cinelli Super Corsa '78 Motobecane Le Champion '84 Schwinn High Sierra '85 Trek 830 '88 Merckx Team ADR Corsa Extra
Thank you. I'm just looking to get it on the road for now. I'm already probably $200 into parts refreshing a cosmetically beat bike, so they'll probably get replaced if I ride it often. They are red, though, and there are not many options for red... Does jag make red?
In addition to Jagwire, Velo Orange sells cable kits in multiple colors, including red. They normally do a good job of keeping the kits in stock, but they appear to be out of stock right now.
Post some photos when you're ready. We don't see many Volares.
__________________
#16
My bike's better than me!

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,296
Likes: 464
From: Northern Colorado
Bikes: Moots Vamoots, 'Dale T2000, DB Response Comp, '98 G. Fisher HKEK, '89 Panasonic DX-6000, '88 Fisher Montare XT, '83 Nishiki Int'l, '72 MB GR, '75 MB GJ, '77 MB LC, '85 Centurion Ironman, '82 Miyata 710
Thank you. I'm just looking to get it on the road for now. I'm already probably $200 into parts refreshing a cosmetically beat bike, so they'll probably get replaced if I ride it often. They are red, though, and there are not many options for red... Does jag make red?
Velo-Orange

Yokozuna
Italian Mesh Type:

French Ribbed Type

ETA: Annnnnnd, Jagwire



#17
Senior Member




Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 10,335
Likes: 9,923
From: Utah
Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super,Lemond Maillot Juane.& custom,PDG Paramount,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
Steel is real...and comfy.
#18
Senior Member



Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 18,793
Likes: 11,580
And Simworks: https://www.sim.works/collections/cables-1
#19
Personally, I wouldn’t use red cable housing on a red bike. I’d use white- for contrast and to avoid any possible mismatch.
But that’s me.
But that’s me.
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
#20
Senior Member



Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 5,821
Likes: 3,397
From: Los Angeles
Bikes: 82 Medici, 85 Ironman, 2011 Richard Sachs
I've come to the conclusion that with 5 or 6 speed friction shifting with 70s brakes and 70s derailleurs, well lubed vintage cables and housings that are in decent shape work as well as modern. I even prefer some of the shift cables on the nice bikes I've come across. They are quite beefy and I don't know why but they resist fraying at the ends which often makes a modern cable single use.
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs. But I do hate all e-bikes.
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs. But I do hate all e-bikes.
#23
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: May 2026
Posts: 23
Likes: 12
I've come to the conclusion that with 5 or 6 speed friction shifting with 70s brakes and 70s derailleurs, well lubed vintage cables and housings that are in decent shape work as well as modern. I even prefer some of the shift cables on the nice bikes I've come across. They are quite beefy and I don't know why but they resist fraying at the ends which often makes a modern cable single use.
#24
Macrame!
Sure it's gonna take more finger-strength than wimpy yarn but those "spirit catchers" are gonna be awesome!

I think I see some re-use opportunities for used headset races and BB lock-rings, plus finally something to do with old ball bearings!
Sure it's gonna take more finger-strength than wimpy yarn but those "spirit catchers" are gonna be awesome!

I think I see some re-use opportunities for used headset races and BB lock-rings, plus finally something to do with old ball bearings!








