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Old 09-10-05 | 05:19 PM
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I am getting looking for a vintage (1980s) steel frame to put together a city bike. I have a size 58cm Trek road bike now, but I need one I can lock up outside.
I am putting straight handlebars on it.
Do I get the same size or, because the bars are straight and therefore I won't be stretched out to the hoods, do I get a longer top tube so the bars are farther away?
I'm not sure I'm being clear here, but the issue is with the straight bars is the frame sizing the same?
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Old 09-10-05 | 05:20 PM
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There are different length stems.
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Old 09-10-05 | 07:36 PM
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Bikes: Crap. The box is not big enough...

if you don't spend all of your time in the front part of the drops, a straight bar will put you in about the same position as the tops of road bars. There isn't much of a fit issue. Make the seat fit your knees and legs; make the stem fit your upper body. Seems like bikes with shorter top tubes are older, and the trend has been to lengthen as they get newer - so the top tube will kind of depend on what age frame you buy.
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Old 09-11-05 | 12:48 PM
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Luker,
I ride most of my time on the hoods. That would put me closer on the city bike unless I get a larger frame with a resultant longer top tube. Or does it not matter as I just get a longer stem?
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Old 09-11-05 | 01:46 PM
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Frankly, I'd go with different bars. The straight bars don't allow much in the way of hand positions. You might try moustache bars or the Nitto Dove/Albatross. Nashbar's cheapie moustache bars are pretty good. Also, it's not a bad thing to be a bit more upright on a city bike/cruiser, for vision purposes. Stem length? Go a bit shorter than usual on moustache bars.

Also, I advise using two locks, even on a beater.
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Old 09-11-05 | 10:49 PM
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Bikes: Crap. The box is not big enough...

Poque is right; the hand positions on a straight bar are pretty limiting, but I kinda like 'em...Stem length is arbitrary within a range...a 95 and a 110 mm stem is gonna handle about the same, but a 70 and a 145 will feel wildly different. I think that the longer stem gives a greater lever arm and amplifies the motion of the handlebars. Longer stem = quicker steering, when the difference is significant. I think...I think I need to draw a free body diagram to get this straight...hold on...
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Old 09-11-05 | 10:58 PM
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nah. Had to resort to calculus and a lengthy discussion with my wife, the mechanical engineer. Longer stems slow down the steering...Shorter stems have more effect on the front wheel.
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