Originally Posted by Slammin
(Post 15711229)
Simpleton, what's the serial number start with? I think that's a Montare but if it's a Tam it's one of the very first. I was sure it was an 88 Montare but I know for certain it's not an 86-88 Mt Tam. The seat tube reinforcement doesn't appear beveled. Double eyelets didn't happen those years either. I think it's an 85.
I stand corrected it is a Montare. I was under the impression that The Montare was tig welded.. But I'm just getting into this vintage thing... I think I'm going to have a problem |
WOW! thanks guys! It definitely needs some work though.. The hubs need to be over hauled, all of the cables and housing need to be replaced and the paint is in pretty rough shape. I'm thinking about swapping the bars out for a bullmoose. I cant wait to take this thing on some trails
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I know the '85 Excalibur was definitely tig welded but I thought that year's Montare was fillet brazed. I certainly could be wrong but doesn't a "T" on the bottom bracket shell indicate that is was a Tom Ritchey frame, a "TT" was a Tom Teesdale, and a "T" in the serial indicated a Toyo Japan made frame? I thought only the fillet brazed Competition model was made by Ritchey and later Teesdale.
My tig welded '85 fork is stamped "85" as well as MIJ and TANGE http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=321638 |
According to Teesdale's site, he built competitions and mt tams. The general rule as I know it is either a TT or TET on the bottom bracket means a Teesdale bike. A T in the serial is a Tam and a C is the Competition.
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Originally Posted by blilrat
(Post 15711858)
According to Teesdale's site, he built competitions and mt tams. The general rule as I know it is either a TT or TET on the bottom bracket means a Teesdale bike. A T in the serial is a Tam and a C is the Competition.
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
(Post 15710947)
Wow, some serious lust for a pair of Fat Franks here. Do they play well with narrow vintage rims?
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My smoke chrome High Sierra got polished up a bit. I believe its a 1989 given the canti/ubrake combo and the uncommon graphics. The finish is very rough after years of sitting outside. Nonetheless, still eye catching in the sun--especially as a complete functional bike for $50. Build photos coming soon after I gather up some grips and brake levers.
http://i.imgur.com/6izYuQ3h.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lGXKQR8h.jpg http://i.imgur.com/OuQ4BGFh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NyVIbTbh.jpg |
^ so sweet :thumb: do you have a scale? how much does the frame+fork weigh?
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Very nice !
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Originally Posted by frantik
(Post 15724648)
^ so sweet :thumb: do you have a scale? how much does the frame+fork weigh?
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In reference to the Fisher discussion, ALL Montares were TIG welded in Japan. Fisher had about 4 models between about 1984 and 1988, two different frame geometries, 2 TIG'ed in Japan, and 2 fillet braised in the US. That is one of the two fillet models, but I cannot remember the names.
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I left my second job and in the email discussion with the boss, she said, "I have an old stumpjumper that I want to recycle. Let me know if you're interested." Turned out to be this which was still way ok with me. A component soak in simple green and a toothbrush scrub and it's good as new. Just handed it off to a friend who will use it for her daughter's tagalong.
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/p...psd8e3b481.jpg http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps22585240.jpg |
thought u guys might enjoy these teaser shots of the mid-90s tandem i picked up recently
http://imageshack.us/a/img203/1559/p1010028b.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img7/4899/p1010031we.jpg |
yes, yes I do Frantik! spatterpainting it yourself?
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yep :D i need to do the clearcoat still but i'm pretty happy with it. used Krylon Webbing spray
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/3194f2p%2BlML.jpg EDIT.. just a note if anyone ever uses this.. this paint is soluble in rubbing alcohol.. once you spray it, DO NOT wipe it down even when dry.. ask me how i found out..:rolleyes: luckily i was able to clean up the smudged parts and hit it with a little more webbing |
I couldn't live without the kickstand, truly one of my favorite accessories. I especially like the rear triangle mounted kickstands because they support the bike where there is the most weight and the bike can be rolled backwards without the pedals interfering.
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I couldn't resist building it up the High Sierra asap with mostly on-hand parts. Nor could it wait to get out on the trail. All that cleanup was quickly rendered moot. It felt quite quick over 23 miles of single track this morning.
http://i.imgur.com/r73rZZch.jpg http://i.imgur.com/c6AiWBJh.jpg Original Dia Compe's. Mildly polished with Simichrome. http://i.imgur.com/rKColeyh.jpg Original U-Brake. Never had one before, but found it relatively easy to setup and can lock up the rear wheel quick. Also polished up nicely. http://i.imgur.com/47kb6fMh.jpg More mud hiding the imperfections in the finish. http://i.imgur.com/8UsmB4fh.jpg Cleaned up at home. All original. Unfortunately from what little I've been able to find around the web it sounds like this is a very weird hub setup to service. The 7-speed XCD hub was a sort of freewheel/freehub mashup. So after this gets worn to the ground the wheel will probably go away unless I find some cheap source of replacement parts. The Accushift works like a charm though. http://i.imgur.com/rxcxXkRh.jpg Only non original stuff on the bike is cockpit and pedals. Stem is perhaps original. As are the Suntour XCD shifters -- friction up front, indexed/friction in back. Fyxation Alterra cafe bar I had lying around. Tektro adjustable pull levers, and Ergon grips which I've been meaning to try for a long while. Not wild about the color of the Velo Orange Red housing, feels a bit dull. Will probably go straight black when it is time to replace. |
^ *drools*
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I'm really liking the look of these High Sierra's. I found one semi local for $30 on CL but, the seller didn't leave any contact info..derp.
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1988 Bianchi Grizzly
I took the advice offered in this thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ube?highlight= and bought a disc-specific bike to haul my kids around SF, which meant the Grizzly got taken apart and put in boxes. By this time, bike was pretty worked. It had been used and abused, left outside and put away wet. The bottom bracket had essentially disintegrated. That said, I loved the bike as it was my first "serious" rig, the lack of maintenance was my own fault, the lugged steel frame was still dent free and it deserved another chance.
After I stripped the parts, I had to decide what to do with the frame. The original celeste paint was destroyed and unsalvageable. The frame was cool, but certainly not worth doing a full restore. When I was stripping the paint, I was impressed by how good the raw steel looked with the nice lugs and brass-colored brazing material outlining the lugs. The only think I didn't love was the unicrown fork; I would have loved to have one of those fork crowns from the early 80s ATBs. In the end, I decided to get the frame powder coated clear to preserve the raw steel look. <gasp> from the celeste traditionalists! <sorry> I neglected to take "before" photos, but this is essentially what it looked like: http://ridewithgps.com/photos/28617/full.jpg Here is what looks like now: http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-jCf5...-jCf5mmr-L.jpg http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-4zN8...-4zN83FV-L.jpg Full gallery here: http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/29830063_439Pgh (sorry, I didn't realize those photos were quite that terrible until I got this far in the post...) I am building it up mostly with Suntour XC Expert components from this bike: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...oup?highlight= (other than the Shimano deore u-brake which has to stay and the bars from the old build. It am going to put on a porteur-type front back and make it my grocery getter (which needs the super low gearing of the Suntour XC setup). I'll update this thread when I get it built. Cheers, Jon SF, CA |
Some might advise against clear over raw steel but, it sure looks great!
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Originally Posted by jmeb
(Post 15738839)
I couldn't resist building it up the High Sierra asap with mostly on-hand parts. Nor could it wait to get out on the trail. All that cleanup was quickly rendered moot. It felt quite quick over 23 miles of single track this morning.
http://i.imgur.com/r73rZZch.jpg |
Originally Posted by jmeb
(Post 15738839)
I couldn't resist building it up the High Sierra asap with mostly on-hand parts. Nor could it wait to get out on the trail. All that cleanup was quickly rendered moot. It felt quite quick over 23 miles of single track this morning.
http://i.imgur.com/r73rZZch.jpg http://i.imgur.com/c6AiWBJh.jpg Original Dia Compe's. Mildly polished with Simichrome. http://i.imgur.com/rKColeyh.jpg Original U-Brake. Never had one before, but found it relatively easy to setup and can lock up the rear wheel quick. Also polished up nicely. http://i.imgur.com/47kb6fMh.jpg More mud hiding the imperfections in the finish. http://i.imgur.com/8UsmB4fh.jpg Cleaned up at home. All original. Unfortunately from what little I've been able to find around the web it sounds like this is a very weird hub setup to service. The 7-speed XCD hub was a sort of freewheel/freehub mashup. So after this gets worn to the ground the wheel will probably go away unless I find some cheap source of replacement parts. The Accushift works like a charm though. http://i.imgur.com/rxcxXkRh.jpg Only non original stuff on the bike is cockpit and pedals. Stem is perhaps original. As are the Suntour XCD shifters -- friction up front, indexed/friction in back. Fyxation Alterra cafe bar I had lying around. Tektro adjustable pull levers, and Ergon grips which I've been meaning to try for a long while. Not wild about the color of the Velo Orange Red housing, feels a bit dull. Will probably go straight black when it is time to replace. http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi...&id=4947324876 http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi...&id=4947324876 Glenn |
Originally Posted by frantik
(Post 15732147)
thought u guys might enjoy these teaser shots of the mid-90s tandem i picked up recently
rustoleum products for everything except the krylon webbing. no problems with compatibility http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/982/8p9x.jpg |
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