Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Rigida rims?

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Rigida rims?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-01-05 | 11:26 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
From: PGH
Rigida rims?

I recently picked up a 70's Campy Record wheelset, with the original Rigida rims on it, clincher. Any info on the rims?
bikeskatethrash is offline  
Reply
Old 11-01-05 | 11:33 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,274
Likes: 2
A French manufacturer.
Blue Order is offline  
Reply
Old 11-01-05 | 11:35 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 532
Likes: 5
They made a number of different cross sections, one was really narrow, had a good hook bead to keep the tire on but the eyelets were too close to centerline, no stagger. If of that type, very hard to keep true. I understand there was a later design that put things right, and those performed better. Much rather have Mavic. Or even the rare narrow Super Champions. Or, be a man, cut them out and lace up a set of tubulars.
number6 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-01-05 | 11:58 PM
  #4  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
From: PGH
These are straight as an arrow. Just wondering if they had collector value to anyone before I ride the hell out of em. Don't wanna destroy history.
bikeskatethrash is offline  
Reply
Old 11-02-05 | 01:50 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 532
Likes: 5
On the hip scale, not that high. 700c or 27"? Stainless, chrome or cad plated spokes? 4x, 3x? 120mm? 126mm? all those factors can effect value. On the plus side if 700c, most of the current tires will mount very well with the ability to hold the stated pressure. Straight lever quick releases are more desireable than the later curved. In that period most likely 36 hole, if less than worth more.
number6 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-02-05 | 07:52 AM
  #6  
peripatetic's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,124
Likes: 2
From: NYC

Bikes: All 70s and 80s, only steel.

Originally Posted by number6
Straight lever quick releases are more desireable than the later curved.

Out of curiosity, I thought I'd emerge from the lurking shadows and ask: why?
peripatetic is offline  
Reply
Old 11-02-05 | 10:04 AM
  #7  
Knows Bigfoot's Momma
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 2
From: SoCal

Bikes: yeah; got a couple...

Originally Posted by peripatetic
Out of curiosity, I thought I'd emerge from the lurking shadows and ask: why?
'Cause the straight lever is pre-'78, and less common these days. There is an exception here with the Campag releases... They made a rare curved release that looks otherwise just like the straight style version...supposedly for track use. Also, it wasn't uncommon for racers to put a curve in their straight releases prior to '78, and if well bent, they're cool too. BTW- lever forging for earlier straight levers reads Campagnolo in block letters; post '78 curved release levers are in script.
__________________
nice lugs baby!
TheOtherGuy is offline  
Reply
Old 11-02-05 | 10:22 AM
  #8  
Applehead57's Avatar
slower than you
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
From: dairy country NY

Bikes: Gunnar Road Sport, peugeot UO-10

My 1977 Peugeot UO-10 came with Rigida rims, still wears them.
Never had to true them.
Probably heavy, but so is the bike, so it doesn't really matter.
Applehead57 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-03-05 | 05:14 AM
  #9  
and riding...just riding
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
From: Belleville, Illinois
I have a recently acquired Motobecane with Rigidas, the rear being slightly less than perfect. It trued ok, but that led me to a search, which led me to the Jacks Bikes webpage. Good news is they have some, better yet a buddy gave me one he had laying around, but still riding the original.
clipped is offline  
Reply
Old 11-03-05 | 07:06 AM
  #10  
giantcfr1's Avatar
Ha ha ha ha ha
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 4,555
Likes: 19
From: Gold Coast; Australia

Bikes: 2004 ORBEA Mitis2 Plus Carbon, 2007 Cannondale Bad Boy Si Disc, 2012 Trek Gary Fisher Collection Marlin WSD 29er Aldi Big Box (Polygon) 650b

Originally Posted by Applehead57
Never had to true them.
I had a pair that I used for 8 years and I too never had to get them re-trued. (is that a word)
I just loved sprinting on them as they were as stiff as. I had my wheels built though, so I don't know if the reason why the wheels were so stiff was because of the builder / build, or just the rims.
Steve.
giantcfr1 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-03-05 | 07:26 AM
  #11  
giant99's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
I have a set that Ive used on a few bikes. Just redished the rear wheel and there now on my fixed gear. They ride real nice.
giant99 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-03-05 | 08:55 AM
  #12  
Sigurdd50's Avatar
Papa Wheelie
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,470
Likes: 0
From: Madison, Wi

Bikes: Jamis Aurora '02; Takara Medalist (650B)

had a '81 Trek 400 with them
nice rims
Sigurdd50 is offline  
Reply
Old 11-03-05 | 10:27 AM
  #13  
Knows Bigfoot's Momma
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 2
From: SoCal

Bikes: yeah; got a couple...

Originally Posted by giantcfr1
I had a pair...I just loved sprinting on them as they were as stiff as. I had my wheels built though, so I don't know if the reason why the wheels were so stiff was because of the builder / build, or just the rims.
Steve.
Rigida rims can build a stiff wheel. I think that's because there's a lot of material at the inner eylet edge, and the center of the rim. But, all of the Rigida rims I have are of a very soft alloy, and easily dented in the thinner bead area. If given a choice, I would take Mavic of the same period, like Module E or later, MA2. That said, a big, heavy friend who's been building wheels since the '70s, swears by the Rigida rims.... I think if you've got a good set, ride 'em, but they're not a "hot item" like a Nisi Sludi, early Martano or Mavic SSC (all sewup rims, BTW).
__________________
nice lugs baby!
TheOtherGuy is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 06:08 AM
  #14  
turtlewoman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 380
Likes: 4
From: Santa Fe

Bikes: Peugeot something 1975

I know this is a way old thread but I am trying to build a couple of wheels using some reclaimed Rigida rims circa about 1975 and the hubs they were originally built with. The spokes were rusted trash, hence the rebuild. The hubs front and back have no name or numbers or nothing. What I'm getting at here is how do I know what spoke length to use? Oh, the bicycle they came off of is a "Clubman". It says Made in Austria on the frame. It's not the Raleigh clubman.
Kate

Last edited by turtlewoman; 07-29-09 at 06:10 AM. Reason: added info
turtlewoman is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 07:02 AM
  #15  
Full Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 419
Likes: 26
Puch is an Austrian make, and I believe they made a Clubman model...My Puch also has Rigida rims with Campy hubs...
ohjonnybegoode is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 07:06 AM
  #16  
miamijim's Avatar
Senior Member
Sheldon Brown Memorial - Donating
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,973
Likes: 145
From: Tampa, Florida
Originally Posted by turtlewoman
I know this is a way old thread but I am trying to build a couple of wheels using some reclaimed Rigida rims circa about 1975 and the hubs they were originally built with. The spokes were rusted trash, hence the rebuild. The hubs front and back have no name or numbers or nothing. What I'm getting at here is how do I know what spoke length to use? Oh, the bicycle they came off of is a "Clubman". It says Made in Austria on the frame. It's not the Raleigh clubman.
Kate
Your rims ERD need to be measured. Its a tricky measurement because it goes to the inside of the rim and you need to know the flange diameter of the hubs.
miamijim is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 08:41 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,768
Likes: 10

Bikes: Cinelli, Paramount, Raleigh, Carlton, Zeus, Gemniani, Frejus, Legnano, Pinarello, Falcon

As I recall, the Rigidas were a lower cost rim than the comparable Super Champions or Mavics. However, they build up a good wheelset; I have a number of wheels with Rigida alloy rims. Finding any oldstyle silver clincher rims is a chore these days. A good set of used rims will bring a bit on ebay...
dbakl is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 08:42 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,768
Likes: 10

Bikes: Cinelli, Paramount, Raleigh, Carlton, Zeus, Gemniani, Frejus, Legnano, Pinarello, Falcon

Originally Posted by turtlewoman
What I'm getting at here is how do I know what spoke length to use?
Ah, you could always measure the old ones...
dbakl is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 09:18 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,251
Likes: 1
From: Boise, ID.
My Motobecane has alloy Rigida's on maillard hubs. - I got them trued when I bought the bike but they have otherwise been a decent wheelset.

I recently flipped a dept-store "PanWorld Olympian" that had steel rigida rims, so they obviously catered to the lower markets with some of their offerings.
corkscrew is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 09:28 AM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,239
Likes: 8
From: Bay Area, Calif.
Originally Posted by bikeskatethrash
I recently picked up a 70's Campy Record wheelset, with the original Rigida rims on it, clincher. Any info on the rims?
Do they still have a legible label?
When the first high pressure, narrow clinchers came out, Rigida was one of the first companies to make a compatible rim - their "13-19" model (red label). There were some reports of incompatibilities with certain tires and they replaced that model with the slightly wider "13-20" (blue label). I used a pair of the 13-19s in the 27" size to rebuild the wheels on my Gitane Interclub that had come with tubular wheels. Still have the rear wheel - the rim on the front eventually wore out on the braking surface so it was rebuilt with a different rim (but still the original hubs and spokes from the tubular wheel).

I had no complaints about these Rigida rims - they stayed true and worked well with all the tires I put on them over the years.
prathmann is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 10:03 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,045
Likes: 15
From: Lancaster County, PA

Bikes: '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis

Man I wish people would start a new thread instead of making me read through an old one. How hard is that?
Picchio Special is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 10:06 AM
  #22  
Casrider's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 254
Likes: 1
agree 100%
going to have to start looking at the dates on the first posts just to make sure I'm not replying to a three or four year old thread
Casrider is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 10:39 AM
  #23  
noglider's Avatar
aka Tom Reingold
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 44,160
Likes: 6,381
From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Rigida rims are good, even though they were fairly low priced.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-09 | 12:29 PM
  #24  
bikemore's Avatar
Too many bikes
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,257
Likes: 0
From: Boston MA
Originally Posted by turtlewoman
I know this is a way old thread but I am trying to build a couple of wheels using some reclaimed Rigida rims circa about 1975 and the hubs they were originally built with. The spokes were rusted trash, hence the rebuild. The hubs front and back have no name or numbers or nothing. What I'm getting at here is how do I know what spoke length to use? Oh, the bicycle they came off of is a "Clubman". It says Made in Austria on the frame. It's not the Raleigh clubman.
Kate
Try spocalc Requires a bit of measure for hubs, but
I am reasonably sure the ERD for rigidas is in there.
bikemore is offline  
Reply
Old 03-16-14 | 06:21 PM
  #25  
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0

Bikes: '79 Peugeot UO10 Course; '85 Bridgestone T700; '89 Bridgestone RB-1

Rigida rims curious and granted this is an older thread...

Originally Posted by Picchio Special
Man I wish people would start a new thread instead of making me read through an old one. How hard is that?
Granted this is an older thread...
but as an experienced lifer, but a newbie to the forum, what is the preference to start a new thread on vintage technology, if the old thread is still relevant?
PeugStone is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.