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Old 12-12-25 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mikestr
What I have found is that the stuff we used to call mineral spirits--mainly naphtha--is NOT available in California retail stores.
Look for "Goof Off".
Smells the same to me, comes in a squeeze-tin with a drip-nozzle, handy...
Use it as well as a penetrating oil between steel and aluminium.

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So, I tried the “rope” method (with an upgrade to actual rope) with mineral spirits. It worked fantastic!

Using tape to install the new tubular was super easy !!!
Went and got all fancy on me using actual rope? Not a bad idea at all! Glad it worked. I’ll bet it was a lot less of a mess than the paper towels and plastic wrap. I’ll give it a whirl with some excess clothesline I’ve got as it seems like it’d absorb solvent well.
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Old 12-13-25 | 05:33 PM
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What I have found is that the stuff we used to call mineral spirits--mainly naphtha--is NOT available in California retail stores. The replacement product is mainly acetone. Check the MSDS for the exact ingredients. Acetone may or may not be the ideal solvent for cleaning rims; that depends on what's on the rim. Traditional rim cement is not very soluble min acetone but it is in naphtha. I can't say what works best for recent rim tapes.

One legal place to buy naphtha, and cheap: Your sporting goods store. Coleman white gas fuel, as someone from the UK said earlier.
I saw this and thought “no way they’d sell acetone as mineral spirits.” So I checked the SDS sheets on Kleen Strip’s website. The South Coast compliant stuff with acetone is marketed as paint thinner indeed (it doesn’t call itself mineral spirits though). Apparently elsewhere in California one can purchase compliant odorless mineral spirits that are still “hydrotreated light distillate” (petroleum, mineral spirits).

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Old 12-14-25 | 03:13 PM
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I need to remove the tubular on my rear wheel so I can true it (Enve hidden spoke nipples). Anyone have any tricks for not tearing the tire base strip when removing the tire? If I want to put it back on with tape, do I need to remove all the old glue (which sounds impossible)?
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Old 12-14-25 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PromptCritical
I need to remove the tubular on my rear wheel so I can true it (Enve hidden spoke nipples). Anyone have any tricks for not tearing the tire base strip when removing the tire? If I want to put it back on with tape, do I need to remove all the old glue (which sounds impossible)?
I've never seen base tape tear away from a plain old tire removal - it'll pucker up with age, and if it's been removed for a repair it won't stick as well.
And whatever adhesive they use on base tape doesn't seem to booger up or anything... no need to remove the old glue. If you're talking about tire mounting tape - yeah, generally you want a clean rim.
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Originally Posted by PromptCritical
I need to remove the tubular on my rear wheel so I can true it (Enve hidden spoke nipples). Anyone have any tricks for not tearing the tire base strip when removing the tire? If I want to put it back on with tape, do I need to remove all the old glue (which sounds impossible)?
Go around the wheel pushing with your thumbs against the base tape/tire where it meets the rim to separate it. Go completely around both sides. The third time around should take the tire off with base tape intact. Put it back on with glue.
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I went with Gatorskins. They look and feel nicer than I was thinking, I really like the tread pattern, and there seems to be latex on the sidewalls.
I couldn't find anywhere on the packaging or the literature or the advertising whether they had latex or butyl tubes.
I've got them stretching on old clincher rims. Reassuringly tight fit, not insanely tight.
I've got a few more months on my Hell of the North sewups which have been great.
Usually when I find a tubular I really like, they stop making them before it's time to buy more.
- so I expect Conti will discontinue these for 2026.








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Old 12-21-25 | 05:38 PM
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^^Those are exactly what I've been running on my track bike for three seasons now. The track being Northeast Velodrome in N.H. Outdoors and asphalt, we go over it with a blower about once a week, so the track is about as clean as it can be. Off track, it's not, and I've picked small shards of glass out of the rubber more than once, but no harm to the tubes. No sealant ever, can't stand the stuff. Tread is holding up well but of course it hasn't been more than a few hundred miles.

I run them at 110psi or more and they're not cushy...

Edited to add: You're right to pre-stretch them and they will still be tough to get on. I kept mine on old tubular wheels for weeks and it was a fight even so.

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Old 12-23-25 | 08:37 PM
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I'm busy stretching a pair of Rally tires for a recent build. I am a bit confused about the tire size though, the were sold as 25 and actually read 28. Only problem will be upon putting them on the bike and hoping for clearance. Any problems with the current Vittoria's other than that I should be aware of? For me this is just a discrepancy but not one I was prepared for. I get that the roads are not ideal but I would prefer to have the larger size tire be accurately described in the sales information. End of rant. Smiles, MH
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Originally Posted by Mad Honk
I'm busy stretching a pair of Rally tires for a recent build. I am a bit confused about the tire size though, the were sold as 25 and actually read 28. Only problem will be upon putting them on the bike and hoping for clearance. Any problems with the current Vittoria's other than that I should be aware of? For me this is just a discrepancy but not one I was prepared for. I get that the roads are not ideal but I would prefer to have the larger size tire be accurately described in the sales information. End of rant. Smiles, MH
You may already know this but Vittoria label most/all of their tubulars as 28” instead of 700c. As far as I know the Rally has only been made in 21, 23 and 25mm widths, all “28”.
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Yeah I get that, but the tires are wider than expected for a 25mm width. 28" isn't a problem as I know about the rim size. Just a bit of issue with the size of the tire. Expecting 25 and not 28. Smiles, MH
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I'm busy stretching a pair of Rally tires for a recent build. I am a bit confused about the tire size though, the were sold as 25 and actually read 28. Only problem will be upon putting them on the bike and hoping for clearance. Any problems with the current Vittoria's other than that I should be aware of? For me this is just a discrepancy but not one I was prepared for. I get that the roads are not ideal but I would prefer to have the larger size tire be accurately described in the sales information. End of rant. Smiles, MH
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I have tried VM& P Naptha which is available from Home Depot and Lowes and it did not work for me. Psimet2001 used it on one of his YouTube vids.
I would like to hear more on why you feel it didn't work for you. I have used it as our singular solvent for 18 or so years on hundreds of wheels each year and all sorts of tubular glues. I confess I didn't read through the thread so maybe I missed something?
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What the heck is a "rigid tubular?" I was just poking around the Bikeinn site and quite a number of the tubular tires listed are described as "rigid." For example:

https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/...re/140559318/p

I have no idea what a rigid tubular might be and would like to be relieved of my ignorance.
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What the heck is a "rigid tubular?" I was just poking around the Bikeinn site and quite a number of the tubular tires listed are described as "rigid." For example:

https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/...re/140559318/p

I have no idea what a rigid tubular might be and would like to be relieved of my ignorance.
Not sure, but maybe it refers to the road, not the tire?
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Not sure, but maybe it refers to the road, not the tire?
I think they think rigid is synonymous with slick.
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I think they think rigid is synonymous with slick.
Huh? Why would they think that?
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If you go to the tyres page: https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/...s-tires/4007/s
It has Tire Type: Folding | Rigid.
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If you go to the tyres page: https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/...s-tires/4007/s
It has Tire Type: Folding | Rigid.
Well, that takes us right back to square one. True, the site classifies tires as either "rigid" or "folding." Some tubular tires are classified as folding, and some as rigid. But what do those categories mean? What is a rigid tubular? A tubular than can't be folded? Can't all tubulars be folded?
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Huh? Why would they think that?
The corsa pro is not rigid in the way that any of us would use the word rigid. Who would promote a high end tubular is being stiff and providing a harsh ride like your favorite wire bead Kenda?
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The corsa pro is not rigid in the way that any of us would use the word rigid. Who would promote a high end tubular is being stiff and providing a harsh ride like your favorite wire bead Kenda?
Agreed. So why add that word? Does it have any meaning in that context? And if so, what?
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"What the heck is a "rigid tubular?" I was just poking around the Bikeinn site and quite a number of the tubular tires listed are described as "rigid." For example:

https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/...re/140559318/p

I have no idea what a rigid tubular might be and would like to be relieved of my ignorance."

My unverified conclusion when researching this a while back was that this is a description for a wired on clincher which takes a tube as opposed to a folding clincher or a tubeless clincher tire. I believe many discounter/surplus/ebay/amazon sellers' descriptions cannot be relied upon, particularly with respect to the word "tubular." I also note that the spelling of "tyre" suggests a non American seller whose definition/understanding of "tubular" may vary from that of an American. In any event, I decided not to take a chance.

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Looks like Tradeinn is located in Spain and has many diverse entities: Bikeinn, Runinn, Shoeinn, ***inn, so they are certainly not English language and cycling oriented
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