Centurion Serial Number Database
#676
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Hi I've got a Centurion Super Elite that I bought a couple of months ago here in Sweden...
Ser.no.: WAK17481H
Groupset is: Shimano 500 Exage, 14 gears
The back wheel is original: Araya
Seatpost and handlebarstem: Sakae
Handlebar: CT, made in Japan
Would be great if anyone could help me out with additional information...
Ser.no.: WAK17481H
Groupset is: Shimano 500 Exage, 14 gears
The back wheel is original: Araya
Seatpost and handlebarstem: Sakae
Handlebar: CT, made in Japan
Would be great if anyone could help me out with additional information...
BTW, I have seen some W-code serial numbers but only 3 of them. There's not enough data to crack the code, yet. Yours will help. Please post what you find. TIA.
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Thanks!, the idea for this color scheme dates back to my first BMX that I got in 1989 that had this combination... So in that way IŽm keeping it true to the style of that era.
Thanks for the info. and yes, it is lugged. I googleŽd the DB Interval and the resemblance is striking... Same groupset and style.
I checked the date codes on the components and the "newest" component was the crankset that had PI engraved. So this dates them to sep 1991 according to your information.
This might imply that the in the serial no. (which was WAK17481H) the K stands for November and the first digit stands for 1991. What do you think, (might not be that simple though), T-Mar
Shimano 500EX places it in the early 1990s. This would be the equivalent of the USA Diamond Back Interval. The Interval was lugged in 1990 but was TIG welded for 1991. Yours looks like it has lugs, so my assumption would be 1990, however, to be sure, verify the component date codes. There will be codes comproised of two letters on the backs of the major components. First letter is the years where N = 1989, O = 1990, etc. Second letter is the month, where A = January, B = February, etc.
BTW, I have seen some W-code serial numbers but only 3 of them. There's not enough data to crack the code, yet. Yours will help. Please post what you find. TIA.
BTW, I have seen some W-code serial numbers but only 3 of them. There's not enough data to crack the code, yet. Yours will help. Please post what you find. TIA.
I checked the date codes on the components and the "newest" component was the crankset that had PI engraved. So this dates them to sep 1991 according to your information.
This might imply that the in the serial no. (which was WAK17481H) the K stands for November and the first digit stands for 1991. What do you think, (might not be that simple though), T-Mar
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Thanks for the info. and yes, it is lugged. I googleŽd the DB Interval and the resemblance is striking... Same groupset and style.
I checked the date codes on the components and the "newest" component was the crankset that had PI engraved. So this dates them to sep 1991 according to your information.
This might imply that the in the serial no. (which was WAK17481H) the K stands for November and the first digit stands for 1991. What do you think, (might not be that simple though), T-Mar
I checked the date codes on the components and the "newest" component was the crankset that had PI engraved. So this dates them to sep 1991 according to your information.
This might imply that the in the serial no. (which was WAK17481H) the K stands for November and the first digit stands for 1991. What do you think, (might not be that simple though), T-Mar
Yes, it would be nice if the first (or last) number represented the year, but based on the other samples in my database, that does not appear to be the case. Regardless, thank-you for the info. It will help and I will solve it, if I can get some more samples of this format. All the data is cross-referenced against BF User Names so, if I do crack the code, I can contact you via PM.
#680
ok, this is a real puzzler for me...the serial number on my Centurion is N9H6093. From what I have read in this thread and over at Sheldon Brown's site...I gather the bike was either a 79 or an 89. In either case it makes me wonder why my wife told me it was her bike when she was in college between 1973 and 1976...I do remember that the frame had a tange sticker on it prior to the sandblasting.
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No puzzle. It's a 1979. The derailleur cable routing is above the bottom bracket, it has the rear cable stop bridge for center-pull brakes and the circular headbadge. In fact, if chrome was not covered up in the repaint, it is either an Omega or LeMans. With all due respect to your wife, the bicycle is definitely not from 1973-1976. The serial number and headbadge irrefutably place it from 1979.
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From: Perth, Western Australia
Here's another Australian Centurion to add to the data base.
The model is a "Turbo 7000", Tange No2 tubing, Unicrown fork, "Made in Japan" sticker. It had no wheels when I picked it up, a Suntour Sprint 9000 RD, Sugino crank, Diacompe levers and front brake.


Serial No. is M8G00885, I wonder what that tells us?

I love the colour (metalic turquoise and white) but it is badly scratched and worn in places so unfortunately I'll lose the decals on a repaint.
I am thinking of putting brifters and a more modern drivetrain/brakes on it to become my "daily rider"
The model is a "Turbo 7000", Tange No2 tubing, Unicrown fork, "Made in Japan" sticker. It had no wheels when I picked it up, a Suntour Sprint 9000 RD, Sugino crank, Diacompe levers and front brake.


Serial No. is M8G00885, I wonder what that tells us?

I love the colour (metalic turquoise and white) but it is badly scratched and worn in places so unfortunately I'll lose the decals on a repaint.
I am thinking of putting brifters and a more modern drivetrain/brakes on it to become my "daily rider"
#684
Hi,
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That IS a puzzler! The serial number indicates 1989, not '79.
Can you give us more detail about original components if
you still have them?
.
Or could it be that your wife is pretending to be a lot
older than she is? That would REALLY be puzzling?
.
I stand corrected by T-Mar (below). I should have looked at
the pics with my graphical browser, not winged it blind with
my Lynx text-only browser. :-(
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That IS a puzzler! The serial number indicates 1989, not '79.
Can you give us more detail about original components if
you still have them?
.
Or could it be that your wife is pretending to be a lot
older than she is? That would REALLY be puzzling?
.
I stand corrected by T-Mar (below). I should have looked at
the pics with my graphical browser, not winged it blind with
my Lynx text-only browser. :-(
.
#685
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From: Costa Mesa, CA
Bikes: I currently own a Giant Brass 1 dirt jumping bike. I love it. I bought it December 1st, 2008.
I guess I will add my new find to the database too!
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Serial Number: N7M1438
Model: Le Mans
Year: Unknown
Components: Shimano Exage Sport
Color Scheme: White forks, yellow mid section
Wheels: Gold colored ARAYA 700C Japan
Front Forks: White
Front Fork Sticker: Tange Mangaloy 2001 Steel Fork Blade
Seat: Centurion Anatomic Vetta
Frame Material: Tange 2
Pedals: Broken
Shimano Exage Sport
Chainrings: Shimano BioPace SIS
Seat Post: Stuck
Pictures of this beauty
.Serial Number: N7M1438
Model: Le Mans
Year: Unknown
Components: Shimano Exage Sport
Color Scheme: White forks, yellow mid section
Wheels: Gold colored ARAYA 700C Japan
Front Forks: White
Front Fork Sticker: Tange Mangaloy 2001 Steel Fork Blade
Seat: Centurion Anatomic Vetta
Frame Material: Tange 2
Pedals: Broken
Shimano Exage SportChainrings: Shimano BioPace SIS
Seat Post: Stuck

Pictures of this beauty
#688
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Bikes: I currently own a Giant Brass 1 dirt jumping bike. I love it. I bought it December 1st, 2008.
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For what it's worth, the only 1988 Lemans RS models I've seen were the purple "smoked" fade, which tends to be a love it/hate it situation. The "straight" fade seems to be a lot easier to look at, comes in more colors, and is much easier to match up to.
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From: Harrow Ontario
Bikes: 85 bianchi stelvio, 80s Rossi, 80s Fiori modena
Never thought Id get one but heres my submission.... yard sale $75..excellent condition.PROTOUR 15 serial # 4F10250.... gold brown metallic paint. Looks like the one in Sheldons catalogue LE Tech der, Champion #2 butted tubes Sugino triple Cantis Forks have a mounting bolt for something. Came with a IDEALE 90 leather saddle. Its mint but one issue the inner chainring is rubbing on the stay, and dug in a bit. At first I bought it for the saddle couldnt really afford it. Got to many bikes etc etc, Now im glad, these are well respected bikes. Im assuming its an 84. Never stop loking for bikes they will find you in craziest places.
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From: Harrow Ontario
Bikes: 85 bianchi stelvio, 80s Rossi, 80s Fiori modena
Thanks, plan on doing some light touring around southern ontario up to georgian bay. Nice addition to my 3 bianchies and 3 rossi. Have an issue with inner chainring hitting the chainstay on the downstroke.Ajustable cups on both sides, sealed bearing cartridge. I can only move it over so much, ill work on it in the coming week. The ideale90 saddle is like new. I wasnt gonna buy it but I could not let that saddle go I have to many bikes as it is, now I have a high end tourer Im jacked, looking forward to be putting many miles on it. Thanks this CV crew is awesome I learnt alot in the last 3 years here, and GO WINGS!!!!
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From: Harrow Ontario
Bikes: 85 bianchi stelvio, 80s Rossi, 80s Fiori modena
Thanks Ill keep the advice on hand. I like the the starving analogy, thats what I tell my teenagers, Dad bought a bike today so Im cutting back on the groceries this week.
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The 1987 model year Expert introduced both those colors and the 105 group for the "normal" Ironman.
That is a unique, rare, and collectible bike in the Centurion world. It's right there with an OEM Prestige or about any Facet for rarity.
Great stuff.
Last edited by RobbieTunes; 05-02-09 at 04:59 AM.
#697
Sorry, I was going by "forum info" on the symmetry name. I was told that's the type of bike frame that is also known as the "Terry" bikes. Terry just being a brand name.
Yes, it is a Salmon and white Terry type frame, 24" front wheel. I forgot to load the second pic.


Yes, it is a Salmon and white Terry type frame, 24" front wheel. I forgot to load the second pic.
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1) That is the finest Terry model Ironman I've seen, probably will see. True collector edition.
2) And then a Pro Tour on it's heels. Another great specimen, and a tourer that stays current in the vein of a Specialized Expedition or Miyata 1000.
3) Color me GREEN today. Envy, Envy.
2) And then a Pro Tour on it's heels. Another great specimen, and a tourer that stays current in the vein of a Specialized Expedition or Miyata 1000.
3) Color me GREEN today. Envy, Envy.
#700
Thanks for the compliments. I spent a lot of time meticulously cleaning and rebuilding it from the dirty state it was in.
Doesn't the "6" in the serial number put it at '86 build date?
So what's it worth? It doesn't fit my wife, her legs are longer than mine! A longer seatpost and riser quill would get it to 80% fit, good enough for Sunday family rolls, maybe I'll go that route. If not then I've been thinking I'm better off selling it.
Doesn't the "6" in the serial number put it at '86 build date?
So what's it worth? It doesn't fit my wife, her legs are longer than mine! A longer seatpost and riser quill would get it to 80% fit, good enough for Sunday family rolls, maybe I'll go that route. If not then I've been thinking I'm better off selling it.






