Campagnolo frame?
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Black frame, Campagnolo signature in red at the back of the top tube, often where a signature goes...1990 would be about right, though, as the bike had DT shifters for sure. Whomever swapped out the shifters, RD, and hubs for 600 tricolor would probably know. Bike shop was puzzled by it, too.
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Chombi Early 70s demand was high makes sense for italy makers to get rid of old stock. Labour was cheap CZECH. makes you wonder if they sent precut components to CZECH. Hense 1973 NUVO Record parts {last year made** on a 1974 stamped Favorit frame. {all brazed** pictures later.
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... BTW, I recall it being International Bicycle Company (IBC) as opposed to International Cycles. I recall them having an International house brand with the bicycles being made by Garlatti in Italy and Bridgestone in Japan, possibly others. Is this the same company, or am I confusing two different companies?
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Black frame, Campagnolo signature in red at the back of the top tube, often where a signature goes...1990 would be about right, though, as the bike had DT shifters for sure. Whomever swapped out the shifters, RD, and hubs for 600 tricolor would probably know. Bike shop was puzzled by it, too.
#57
Just because Campagnolo never made a tubeset it doesn't mean Campagnolo couldnt have made or had made for them frameset for whatever reason.
That's like say my Colnago isnt a Colnago because it doesnt have colnago tubing. Silly arguement.
That's like say my Colnago isnt a Colnago because it doesnt have colnago tubing. Silly arguement.
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I think it generally is accepted that there were commissioned frames for trade show bicycles. However, a commerically marketed Campagnolo frame/bicycle is a different matter. Regardless of how how small the quantities, they would be part of cycling lore and a holy grail. It's hard to imagine they would have escaped the attention of Campagphiles.
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This frame is reported to be a Campy display frame I bought off E-Bay for my sixteen year old son. It has no serial numbers , a Cinelli BB, Campy dropouts. We built using our own parts. Compared to my TSX Bianchi it is extremly compliant and a little slower in the steering.
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you suggesting it is a sticker got me a little perturbed so went down and took the forks off the bike and NO sticker just stamped into the metal stearing tube the following BREV Campagnola-Lg-200-(dametersign o with slash through it) 2.54 x 24F.
this is certainly no decal or sticker, its the real deal.
this is certainly no decal or sticker, its the real deal.

(from an early 1970s Jevelot product poster)
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No Campagnolo frames. From time to time they have comissioned frames for Trade Shows, and neutral support of races. I think Serotta even made some long ago. They had Campagnolo graphics and were silver, and one year blue if memory serves.
Not in one's best interest to compete with your customers. Pushing off topic, but with the number of makers that don't make forks, and Campagnolo's commitment to carbon...wanna bet they do a fork? They DID try saddles, and DO brand clothing...
Not in one's best interest to compete with your customers. Pushing off topic, but with the number of makers that don't make forks, and Campagnolo's commitment to carbon...wanna bet they do a fork? They DID try saddles, and DO brand clothing...
A while ago, I stumbled on a bike, sold by a 88yr old man, who felt like buying a new one
It is all Campagnolo, every single part of it (exempt for the wheels, the bike had tubes and his LBS changed them into tyres, they had to change the rims and stole his hubs, added S quick releases)Anyway, the amount of campagnolo parts is impressive.. Seat post, breaks, levers, break hoods(not visual on pics), breaks, dropouts, seat post clam, headset (https://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/campy-steer-tube.jpg), even the screws of the bottle cage are marked with 'Brev Campagnolo Italy'...
Stickers: Reynolds Tubes 531, Campagnolo (in some kind of sun), and 'Emaillage Mv'.. No other sign of a brand, no serial number...
I didn't want to sell this one, so I tuned it a bit for my girlfriend, I still have all the original pieces, and I can easily convert it back to original state.. (will post pictures of original bike later if some would like to see them...)
Anyone knows more about this bike? Could it be a Trade Show bike from campy (its Silver)? What could be a good price for it?
I uploaded some hd pics so you guys can zoom

https://picasaweb.google.com/1086758...098507/Marieke
Thx
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Hey all,
A while ago, I stumbled on a bike, sold by a 88yr old man, who felt like buying a new one
It is all Campagnolo, every single part of it (exempt for the wheels, the bike had tubes and his LBS changed them into tyres, they had to change the rims and stole his hubs, added S quick releases)
Anyway, the amount of campagnolo parts is impressive.. Seat post, breaks, levers, break hoods(not visual on pics), breaks, dropouts, seat post clam, headset (https://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/campy-steer-tube.jpg), even the screws of the bottle cage are marked with 'Brev Campagnolo Italy'...
Stickers: Reynolds Tubes 531, Campagnolo (in some kind of sun), and 'Emaillage Mv'.. No other sign of a brand, no serial number...
I didn't want to sell this one, so I tuned it a bit for my girlfriend, I still have all the original pieces, and I can easily convert it back to original state.. (will post pictures of original bike later if some would like to see them...)
Anyone knows more about this bike? Could it be a Trade Show bike from campy (its Silver)? What could be a good price for it?
I uploaded some hd pics so you guys can zoom
https://picasaweb.google.com/1086758...098507/Marieke
Thx
A while ago, I stumbled on a bike, sold by a 88yr old man, who felt like buying a new one
It is all Campagnolo, every single part of it (exempt for the wheels, the bike had tubes and his LBS changed them into tyres, they had to change the rims and stole his hubs, added S quick releases)Anyway, the amount of campagnolo parts is impressive.. Seat post, breaks, levers, break hoods(not visual on pics), breaks, dropouts, seat post clam, headset (https://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/campy-steer-tube.jpg), even the screws of the bottle cage are marked with 'Brev Campagnolo Italy'...
Stickers: Reynolds Tubes 531, Campagnolo (in some kind of sun), and 'Emaillage Mv'.. No other sign of a brand, no serial number...
I didn't want to sell this one, so I tuned it a bit for my girlfriend, I still have all the original pieces, and I can easily convert it back to original state.. (will post pictures of original bike later if some would like to see them...)
Anyone knows more about this bike? Could it be a Trade Show bike from campy (its Silver)? What could be a good price for it?
I uploaded some hd pics so you guys can zoom

https://picasaweb.google.com/1086758...098507/Marieke
Thx
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I would love to have one of these. IMHO this is the most beautiful cannondales ever built.
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I think it generally is accepted that there were commissioned frames for trade show bicycles. However, a commerically marketed Campagnolo frame/bicycle is a different matter. Regardless of how how small the quantities, they would be part of cycling lore and a holy grail. It's hard to imagine they would have escaped the attention of Campagphiles.
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I would be very surprised if Campagnolo ever made frames. Tullio Camagnolo and Cino Cinelli had a very close relationship (Cino helped Tullio out of at least one financial jam) and they did not poach on each other's territory. Cinelli's bivalent hubs are a rare exception, and they never caught on. But you'll never see a Campy stem or a Cinelli rear derailleur. It isn't an accident.
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I would be very surprised if Campagnolo ever made frames. Tullio Camagnolo and Cino Cinelli had a very close relationship (Cino helped Tullio out of at least one financial jam) and they did not poach on each other's territory. Cinelli's bivalent hubs are a rare exception, and they never caught on. But you'll never see a Campy stem or a Cinelli rear derailleur. It isn't an accident.
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wtf??
I think the "comic sans" font of the logo might cast a bit of doubt on the authenticity of this specimen
Last edited by jev; 07-26-13 at 12:59 PM. Reason: added photos which'll eventually disappear from swiss site
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Looking at this another way, just because there are stickers or decals saying "Campagnolo" on a frame, this does not/is probably not intended to suggest that Tullio's men made it. Nearly every mountain bike I see, from Toys R Us Bicycle-Shaped-Objects up to quite sophisticated models, have the word Shimano displayed somewhere on the frame, even if it's just the chain stay protector, presumably to indicate the equipment the frame is built with. A number of my 1970's 531 racing frames have small yellow and blue 'Gruppo Campagnolo Record' decals on the frames - which were NOT built by Campagnolo - they are definitely British built by Holdsworth!
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This frame/bike looks interesting, The Seller is saying that it is a Campagnolo frame, which I am doubtful of, but frame is all chrome, nice detailed lugs. Has "K" engraved fork crown. Whatever it is It looks pretty good. Pics aren't that great, and not thinking the seller is that knowledgeable. He was also saying it used to be Pro owned. (BTW if if save the image and open in photo viewer you can zoom in better.)
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Albuch Kotter, would be my guess.






