bike frame forensics
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bike frame forensics
Subject: one disassembled touring frame, shimano exage sport LS gruppo, Alesa rims.
Identifying marks: no headbadge or original paint visible. subject has been (re?)painted with a black and white jacksonpollockesque spatter job (but is high quality).
One chainstay sticker reading: Apollo Australia.
One serial number located on the underside of the bottom bracket: P9320902.
Frame has a frame pump peg. Lugs are uncomplicated, look similar to 80's Nishiki or Bridgestone lugs. Seat tube lug where seat post inserts rises to a point above the frame.
Fork crown is "tapered", not "capped", dropouts are forged, rear drop out is a short horizontal type with adjusters.
Conclusions: Subject is an 80s or early 90s japanese bike, make and model unknown, repainted by "Apollo Australia", or a japanese tubing set put together by "apollo australia".
Positive identification pending consultation on brands and serial # with experts at the FBF (Freakin' Bike Forums).
Identifying marks: no headbadge or original paint visible. subject has been (re?)painted with a black and white jacksonpollockesque spatter job (but is high quality).
One chainstay sticker reading: Apollo Australia.
One serial number located on the underside of the bottom bracket: P9320902.
Frame has a frame pump peg. Lugs are uncomplicated, look similar to 80's Nishiki or Bridgestone lugs. Seat tube lug where seat post inserts rises to a point above the frame.
Fork crown is "tapered", not "capped", dropouts are forged, rear drop out is a short horizontal type with adjusters.
Conclusions: Subject is an 80s or early 90s japanese bike, make and model unknown, repainted by "Apollo Australia", or a japanese tubing set put together by "apollo australia".
Positive identification pending consultation on brands and serial # with experts at the FBF (Freakin' Bike Forums).
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Bikes: 1992 Miyata Nine 14; 1971 Raleigh Super Course fixie conversion; 2006 Jamis Nova (853 version); 2001 Diamondback Topanga (SS conversion); 1956 Rudge Sports; 1971 Raleigh Competition (processing); 199? Schwinn World Sport (processing)
please consult the following files for a positive ident.
one correction: the serial # is on the underside of the downtube
please let me know if there is a better way to show pictures.
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
one correction: the serial # is on the underside of the downtube
please let me know if there is a better way to show pictures.
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
https://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...5303_0_ALB.jpg
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I get the dreaded "You don't have permission to view...." Try attaching them to your post or I guess you can set your links for public viewing.
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Originally Posted by CV-6
I get the dreaded "You don't have permission to view...." Try attaching them to your post or I guess you can set your links for public viewing.
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Originally Posted by Philatio
If you select the full url up in the address bar and then hit enter it will usually appear (works in this case) though not always depending on the source of the error. This might just be in Firefox though, I haven't used Explorer in some time 

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Bikes: Crap. The box is not big enough...
my vote is that this is an Apollo bicycle. They are still in business - see if this matches their serial number scheme...I'm saying this because those serial numbers haven't been painted over. I think that this is the original paint scheme and the numbers were stamped in after the paint was on the bike, and that style of paint was popular in the early '90's. Who made the dropouts?
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No email address on their website, but if you don't mind spending the money on a phone call......
https://www.apollobikes.com/contactus
Remember that Melbourne, AU is GMT+10.
https://www.apollobikes.com/contactus
Remember that Melbourne, AU is GMT+10.
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Bikes: Crap. The box is not big enough...
looks like, from their website, that they buy a line of bikes from various vendors in the far east (is that term politically correct?). Your guess that this is an Asian import is probably correct.
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ahh..
well thank you all. if somebody could pm me the uncorrected and the corrected url, I'd appreciate it. It's damned kodak won't allow direct links--you have to create an account to view shared pictures, which I think is quite bogus.
what also interested me about the frame was the unusual (to me) chain-stay bridge, shaped like a soft-shell egg cup.
I guess I was confused as my third bike growing up in Canada (after a sears 3-speed and a purple peugeot) was an apollo capri (or maybe it was a capri apollo)--my cast iron and lead alloy steed.
no head badge or decals and the heinous paint made me think maybe it was a repaint.
anyways, cheers. I'd love to know what tubing was used, so I'll try and get in contact with the australian apollos.
well thank you all. if somebody could pm me the uncorrected and the corrected url, I'd appreciate it. It's damned kodak won't allow direct links--you have to create an account to view shared pictures, which I think is quite bogus.
what also interested me about the frame was the unusual (to me) chain-stay bridge, shaped like a soft-shell egg cup.
I guess I was confused as my third bike growing up in Canada (after a sears 3-speed and a purple peugeot) was an apollo capri (or maybe it was a capri apollo)--my cast iron and lead alloy steed.
no head badge or decals and the heinous paint made me think maybe it was a repaint.
anyways, cheers. I'd love to know what tubing was used, so I'll try and get in contact with the australian apollos.
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From: Yarramalong
Originally Posted by luker
looks like, from their website, that they buy a line of bikes from various vendors in the far east (is that term politically correct?). Your guess that this is an Asian import is probably correct.
Apollo may have been different when this bike was made.
#13
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The Apollo name was used by Kuwahara, relatively common in Canada and Austrailia. In Canada, the bikes were imported by Fred Deely Cycles (who did the final assembly). I had one in the late 80s with the full 600EX gruppo.




