why do i see 70's bikes with flipped bars?
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I used to ride my Varsity that way. It was for almost 10 months that I did that. But that was when it had duct and electrical tape as bar tape and it couldn't shift properly - and had original wheels which were replaced for Aluminum.
After I restored the bike I put everything in proper position.
I'm down with the drop-bars flipped up solution.
After I restored the bike I put everything in proper position.
I'm down with the drop-bars flipped up solution.
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A lot of times when I ride my bike I just ride with no real destination. I tend to write like that too. I have observed that Uni Cycles are impractical, but people buy them and ride them. I do not understand why. I've read that some wealthy people buy Trek Pilot 5900's and by the time they buy a pair of shoes with cleats, proper riding jerseys, shorts and a pair of $15.00 comfort socks they have spent $5900.00. I do not understand why. Some people buy each member of their family a bike at the nearest local Wal-mart, I don't know why but they do. Some people sit at home and watch people exercise on TV. Again I don't know why. But if someone sets up their bike to make it more comfortable, easier to ride, more fun to sight-see, easier to shout and point, easier to ride at a slower pace, easier to hang their wal-mart bags with a gallon of milk on one side and a six pack on the other, I am beginning to understand why. They may have invested as much as $35.00 (purchased from the local Thrift shop) for their up-right modified, but I do not see any of them as being any serious competition in a race that takes them 100 miles away from home. All Bicycles should be FUN and are a great source of excercise even if they are only ridden indoors as a stationary. I think the ones that FLIP the bars just do it for the FUN of it. By not conforming to the Norm, they are all Non Conformists banded together. What gets me is they are always smiling as if they really are enjoying their $35.00, slow shifting, Chain Clicking, Tire Wobbling, Upright bikes as much as I enjoy my Campanolo C-Record, with its Quiet Shifting, Close gear ratio, light weight, High Speed, tucked in position, chin to the handlebar, dropped down, race minded, traffic mixing, home brew, road bike. (Hope no one steals mine), but I know mine is safe from the hands of the Up-right crowd. Mine is just not what they are looking for. If I loaned it to them they would just say no. Thank you, but no thanks. But you know what? They are bikers. and I respect that.. I think we all do. Besides, perhaps it is easier to light up a smoke and keep it lit while riding in an up-right position.
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Originally Posted by jeremyb
So i did a search but couldnt find it----I always see these like homeless guys or white trash riding around on old 10 speeds with the handlebars flipped over---why is that?
my guess is that a drop bar is too low for them, and that it was fashionable in the 70's, 80's to have a 10 speed but people didnt really like bending over and wanted their bars closer to them?
theres got to be more to it than that though? right?
thanks
my guess is that a drop bar is too low for them, and that it was fashionable in the 70's, 80's to have a 10 speed but people didnt really like bending over and wanted their bars closer to them?
theres got to be more to it than that though? right?
thanks
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I don't think this guy was white trash....and I'm pretty certain he wasn't from Chicago. (bottom row, center picture).
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Originally Posted by FerrariMX5
I think the ones that FLIP the bars just do it for the FUN of it. By not conforming to the Norm, they are all Non Conformists banded together..
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Drop bars suck! They were put on the all the 70's bike craze bikes so that Joe College could imagine he was a bike racer. I put drop bars on my Raleigh 3-speed in about 1967 for the same reason. In about 1980 I took the drop bars off all my bikes that had them, and have never used another set since; it hurts my neck to even think about drop bars anymore.
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Originally Posted by Bogester
I don't think this guy was white trash....and I'm pretty certain he wasn't from Chicago. (bottom row, center picture).
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with the bars turned up I can fill em with mad dog, turned down it just runs out
and spills all over the ground and my pants.
with guzzoline at close to 3 bucks a gallon (predicted 5 by summers end by one doomsayer)
I think we are gonna see more of these, and the pickins at the yard sales and thrifts is gonna
get slim.
marty
and spills all over the ground and my pants.
with guzzoline at close to 3 bucks a gallon (predicted 5 by summers end by one doomsayer)
I think we are gonna see more of these, and the pickins at the yard sales and thrifts is gonna
get slim.
marty
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Originally Posted by caloso
I always thought it was because it was a quick and dirty way of getting the bars up higher. It doesn't take any mechanical skill more than turning a nut. I always thought of it as a 70s thing. Then I happened to see this on the Library of Congress:
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Originally Posted by ozneddy
its actually an old secret society that duz it, very very old and secretive, a bit like the mason,s u can tell who is a member by the upside down bars on there bikes, and if u were to ask them why they do it, they would come up with all kinds of excuses to put you off track (very cunning)
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The bottom one looks like they're set up for commuting: lights, racks, bells, nice comfy tires, fashionable clothing.
Plus ca change....
Plus ca change....
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Originally Posted by jeremyb
btw it makes a little more sense for those old time photos cause theyre riding fixies with no brakes.
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Imagine the hubub that would result on the road forum if someone turned carbon bars on a Litespeed upside down.
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Originally Posted by randya
Drop bars suck! They were put on the all the 70's bike craze bikes so that Joe College could imagine he was a bike racer. I put drop bars on my Raleigh 3-speed in about 1967 for the same reason. In about 1980 I took the drop bars off all my bikes that had them, and have never used another set since; it hurts my neck to even think about drop bars anymore.
Would never put 'em on my Superbe, but that's me. Better that people are riding, than choosing not to because the bar type/position doesn't suit them.
See? I can be tolerant too.
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Originally Posted by caloso
I always thought it was because it was a quick and dirty way of getting the bars up higher. It doesn't take any mechanical skill more than turning a nut. I always thought of it as a 70s thing. Then I happened to see this on the Library of Congress:
So, there's nothing new under the sun.
So, there's nothing new under the sun.
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I have seen this bar orientation referred to by the fixed gear "community" (and I use the word lightly) here as Ghetto Style.
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They're cooler if the ends point straight up.
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My dad told me people used to flip the bars around because it looked old and cheap, and thus your bike was less apt to be stolen. I think it's cheaper to just flip the bar around for an easier riding position than getting a high rise bar. Homeless people tend to be poor - not always, but usually.
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I don't think that you have to narrow this to just white trash. Here in NY, the trash who ride with the Ghetto style are mainly Puerto Ricans. I think it's the preliminary step before they've managed to upgrade to a nice Schwinn Cruiser with the blasting portable music, flags and enormous horns.
In San Diego, all the beach trash (black, white and latino, though, admittedly, mainly white) do it because they're going along the boardwalk at about 1/2 mile an hour and really need to be as upright as possible to keep their rugged, leather-forming tans even. And when you need to carry your bags full of empty bottles and cans to the recycling hubs, it's a lot more beneficial to have hooks to hang 'em off of. I also think it's kind of a "trashy" and homeless-person trend. (Yes, even in poorer communities, there are trends and fashions, though probably not recognizable to most others as such.)
Personally, I agree with luker--I just can't resolve myself to the handles turning up and then forward. But in my current obsessive attention to detail, I've also become a bit snobbish about thick tubes, as well and ugly 'comfort' saddles, as well.
In San Diego, all the beach trash (black, white and latino, though, admittedly, mainly white) do it because they're going along the boardwalk at about 1/2 mile an hour and really need to be as upright as possible to keep their rugged, leather-forming tans even. And when you need to carry your bags full of empty bottles and cans to the recycling hubs, it's a lot more beneficial to have hooks to hang 'em off of. I also think it's kind of a "trashy" and homeless-person trend. (Yes, even in poorer communities, there are trends and fashions, though probably not recognizable to most others as such.)
Personally, I agree with luker--I just can't resolve myself to the handles turning up and then forward. But in my current obsessive attention to detail, I've also become a bit snobbish about thick tubes, as well and ugly 'comfort' saddles, as well.
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I have seen a guy riding about on a beautiful copper-colored bike from the 70's in my neighborhood lately. He's hoboed the bars. I haven't gotten close enough to see the manufacturer, although it looks (right now) to be in very good shape. Crap, I'm gonna get a reputation as a bike stalker!
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I was riding in the 70's and I turned some bars up but it was because the bikes at my disposal where cheap chunks of led,that only resembled a fast road bike. it's not fun in the drops when the bike sucks, so we flipped the bars road weelies jumped ramps, cracked frames and taco'ed some rims. so for me and my friends it was about having fun with what you had.