Campania frame help
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Campania frame help
I just picked up a Campania Professional at a used bike shop because it was the only thing I could find that fit my size and my budget. I've googled the componentry and it seems like it was good stuff in it's day. I can't tell if it was built up form parts or if it's the original components, it seems like a mix match of different things but I'm new to this. i'm curious if the frame is decent or junk? hopefully someone can shed some light on the situation. I can't find anything on Campania besides that it was a Japanese brand in the 70's that tried to sound Italian. here's the details... Campania Professional dark brown, with exposed chrome on the rear triangle and end of fork, as well as at weld points. all the brazons are clamp on and appear chrome as well. serial # k7E00465 under the bottom bracket. above the rear drop outs it reads "yuko cold Forging"
it has a suntour cyclone rear and shimano 600 front derailiur, with suntour bar end shifters and center pull dia compe brakes. Everything works great, my question is if the frame is safe and decent and whether it was worth the $200 bucks I paid. any help is greatly appreciated!!!
it has a suntour cyclone rear and shimano 600 front derailiur, with suntour bar end shifters and center pull dia compe brakes. Everything works great, my question is if the frame is safe and decent and whether it was worth the $200 bucks I paid. any help is greatly appreciated!!!
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if it is tuned up and ready to ride than it is worth 200, if not is still could be worth 200, if you have to pay to have it made road ready it is questionable. some photos would help. are there any stickers on the frame that indicate tubing type? such as 4130, or chromoly or cro-mo, etc?
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here's some photos
unfortunetely not, no stickers or anything that indicate tubing type. it's been overhauled and is ride ready. I'm mostly curious about the quality of the frame. here's some photos...
maybe it will help solve the mystery. thanks for your help!!!
maybe it will help solve the mystery. thanks for your help!!!
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Wow, that is a really nice bike, the frame looks great. the forged dropouts indicate good quality especially for it's age, sorry I can't help more... the fork may have stampings on the stear tube but you would have to take it apart. the chrome lugs are nice too (shape is similar to that on Nishikis of the late 70s) and indicate a higher end machine. Probably double butted tange cro-mo tubing. Maybe someone else will be able to give you more info...
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It looks early 1970s, but the serial number suggests 1977 which is a better fit with the Cyclone rear derailleur that was first introduced in 1975. If we assume it's the front derailleur that is original, Shimano 600 was introduced in 1976, so 1977 is still a good bet.
The tubeset is almost certainly a butted, CrMo set as stated by Cyclotoine. It's almost certainly Tange or Ishiwata. The best indicator is probably the seat post diameter, which should be marked. Most Tange, CrMo butted tubesets use a 26.8mm seat post. Ishiwata varies a bit more, but if it's 26.8mm or larger, it's good tubing.
A lot of cyclists feel that the Japanese frames from the boom era feel "dead", even on the high end models. Based my experience, I'd have to agree. However, I'm not entirely convinced that this is due soley to the tubing. Many of the Japanese frames from that era have relatively relaxed geometries compared to their European counterparts. This appears the be the case with your Pro, which seems to have realxed angles and long chainstays for a bicycle whose moniker suggests a competition model. Regardless, a very nice acqusition. Congratulations.
The tubeset is almost certainly a butted, CrMo set as stated by Cyclotoine. It's almost certainly Tange or Ishiwata. The best indicator is probably the seat post diameter, which should be marked. Most Tange, CrMo butted tubesets use a 26.8mm seat post. Ishiwata varies a bit more, but if it's 26.8mm or larger, it's good tubing.
A lot of cyclists feel that the Japanese frames from the boom era feel "dead", even on the high end models. Based my experience, I'd have to agree. However, I'm not entirely convinced that this is due soley to the tubing. Many of the Japanese frames from that era have relatively relaxed geometries compared to their European counterparts. This appears the be the case with your Pro, which seems to have realxed angles and long chainstays for a bicycle whose moniker suggests a competition model. Regardless, a very nice acqusition. Congratulations.





