Ishiwata info sought
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
My old, long-dead-and-buried 1992 Bridgestone RB-1 ... had a pretty cool-looking gold decal on the seat tube - it did not look like the one posted above.
Last edited by ga_mueller; 07-29-06 at 07:53 PM.
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These are from my two Fuji's - both Ishiwata. (I hope these attachments work!)
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The Ishiwata decal on my '76 Main d'Or says '022' and 'Speed Gallant'. You gotta love those names!
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Originally Posted by ga_mueller
Now I'm curious. That Ishiwata "leafy decal" thing on Roccobikes Fuji looks a lot like the partially-removed painted-on decal "Cro-Mo" on my Nishiki. But I was told the tubing was Tange... . Anyone seen one like this before, and know what the removed lettering might be?


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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
My old, long-dead-and-buried 1992 Bridgestone RB-1 had Ishiwata tubing. (You should have seen the crack - down tube, seat tube and BB shell all involved. An aluminum or carbon fiber frame would have disintegrated instead of merely getting a tad wobbly.)
Originally Posted by beaverstuff
What did you DO to the poor thing? Ishiwata bikes have feelings.
Are the two events related? Like I say, I'm not sure, but I can't think of anything else that happend that might have caused that crack to start, and I'm sure not going to blame Ishiwata or Bridgestone - not that it would have done any good at that point, even if I had wanted to.
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Originally Posted by reverborama
These are from my two Fuji's - both Ishiwata.
From Fuji sales, the "FUJI VALite BUTTED TUBING" is double-butted tubing.
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Originally Posted by OLDYELLR
Here is the seat tube decal on my Nishiki Ultimate. Nobody has ever told me with any certainty what brand tubing it is.
This is another really cool thread!
George
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Originally Posted by ga_mueller
This is another really cool thread! George
Like I said earlier, "those lucky enough to have a Ishiwata-framed bike are fiercely loyal".
They're also very proud!
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Esoteric, NOT! We're riding bicycles that represent the end of "classic" bicycle evolution. These bicycles are a match, mechanically, for any "modern" bicycle. If they have 6 cogs instead of 9, what's the difference to an experienced rider? I was on a 65mi ride today with my friend, who has a 27spd LeMond vs my 12spd Nishiki. We ended up neck-to-neck after 5hrs of riding. I rest my case... .
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Originally Posted by ga_mueller
Esoteric, NOT! . . . the end of "classic" bicycle evolution. These bicycles are a match, mechanically, for any "modern" bicycle. I was on a 65mi ride today with my friend, who has a 27spd LeMond vs my 12spd Nishiki. We ended up neck-to-neck after 5hrs of riding. I rest my case... .
After 5 hours, I hope you were with your friend! Is not this the stuff we proud owners are made?
I have a very dear friend who pays $500+ for American Classic wheels. Surly, he enjoys his rides as much as I do with hand-me-down Ukai alloy rims.
Pass the epsom salts . . .
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Originally Posted by moxfyre
I have the same thing on my touring bike... 80s frame of uncertain origin. That feather tubing is great stuff, I love the way it rides 
I would love to have a good high-res image of that decal, if possible, since mine is falling apart and I'd like to print a new sticker. Anyone know where I can find a high-res Ishiwata feather sticker image?

I would love to have a good high-res image of that decal, if possible, since mine is falling apart and I'd like to print a new sticker. Anyone know where I can find a high-res Ishiwata feather sticker image?
Here's a link to another site that includes scans of a late '80s Fuji catalogue. The touring bikes use Ishiwata Feather tubing. https://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/fuji/fujipage.htm
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by moxfyre
I would love to have a good high-res image of that decal, if possible, since mine is falling apart and I'd like to print a new sticker. Anyone know where I can find a high-res Ishiwata feather sticker image?
Tell him Jim sent you.
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dougb and beaverstuff: Thanks very much for your help finding a decal image!!! I'll email your friend ASAP, really appreciate it.
For good measure, here are some photos my Ishiwata pride and joy... it's my 57 cm home-built touring bike, dubbed Steely Dan. An eclectic (read: frugal) mix of Suntour Barcons, Campy brake levers, Shimano LX derailers and canti brakes, Truvativ crank, Shimano 105 hubs, and Mavic MA3 rims. I got the frame off craigslist in Feb 2005 from a guy in Cincinnati, and from the looks of it, it had never been built up. It's a great bike to ride 10-20 miles every day; I'd never experienced a really good quality steel frame before I hopped on this one.
The origin of the frame is a bit of a mystery to me. It's labeled "Backroads Mistaya" on the top + down tubes, while the head tube says "Backroads Adventure Touring". My boss used to live in California and said Backroads was a company that organized guided bike tours out there, but I don't know what this means about the age or original purpose of the frame. The frame has the usual braze-ons, plus a THIRD water bottle holder UNDER the down-tube. The coolest feature is a spare-spoke holder brazeon on the right chainstay, which holds two spare spokes for when you need 'em. Clearly this frame was built with a focus on the details, but by whom?
As you can see, the decal has suffered from frequent snow, rain, mud, and Simple Green.
This is a great thread. I had no idea there was anyone else out there who'd wondered about Ishiwata, and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who appreciates it
For good measure, here are some photos my Ishiwata pride and joy... it's my 57 cm home-built touring bike, dubbed Steely Dan. An eclectic (read: frugal) mix of Suntour Barcons, Campy brake levers, Shimano LX derailers and canti brakes, Truvativ crank, Shimano 105 hubs, and Mavic MA3 rims. I got the frame off craigslist in Feb 2005 from a guy in Cincinnati, and from the looks of it, it had never been built up. It's a great bike to ride 10-20 miles every day; I'd never experienced a really good quality steel frame before I hopped on this one.
The origin of the frame is a bit of a mystery to me. It's labeled "Backroads Mistaya" on the top + down tubes, while the head tube says "Backroads Adventure Touring". My boss used to live in California and said Backroads was a company that organized guided bike tours out there, but I don't know what this means about the age or original purpose of the frame. The frame has the usual braze-ons, plus a THIRD water bottle holder UNDER the down-tube. The coolest feature is a spare-spoke holder brazeon on the right chainstay, which holds two spare spokes for when you need 'em. Clearly this frame was built with a focus on the details, but by whom?
As you can see, the decal has suffered from frequent snow, rain, mud, and Simple Green.
This is a great thread. I had no idea there was anyone else out there who'd wondered about Ishiwata, and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who appreciates it

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Originally Posted by M-theory
I'm trying to find out if my Viner track frame is Ishiwata.
(see image above - same topic)

Have any of you readers done this??
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Folks,
I have a small link on Ishiwata, collected from a variety of sources:
https://www.angelfire.com/electronic/.../Ishiwata.html
This is a free site, sooooooo, beware of the ads!
I have a small link on Ishiwata, collected from a variety of sources:
https://www.angelfire.com/electronic/.../Ishiwata.html
This is a free site, sooooooo, beware of the ads!






