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Old 08-15-06, 02:04 PM
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Weinmann 999 Brakes--Which Kool Stop Pad to Buy?

I have a set of Weinmann 999 long-reach centerpulls on an old Raleigh Supercourse. Need new pads and I am unsure regarding which set of Kool Stops to buy. Which are direct bolt ons, and which work best with these brakes? Advice appreciated!
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I'd choose the Koolstop Continentals, I always found the salmon colored ones to work fine, but I see that you can sometimes find them in gray, which is SUPPOSED to be the right compound for alloy rims.
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I use the Kool-Stop salmon Continentals on my Weinmann centerpulls with Mavic Open Pro alloy rims. They perform magnificently.

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I just got two pairs of Koolstop silvers for $7.95 plus $6.00 shipping on eBay. The same seller has more. (cycle_direct)
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I use the Koolstops called Thinline for V-brakes, in salmon, on my centerpulls. Excellent brake pads. They have the spherical washers that make toe-in and up-down adjustments very easy. If you're trying to stay even remotely period correct, though, these aren't for you-
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I don't like the salmon continentals so much. Actually I haven't tried them on alloy rims, but on steel rims they are VERY grabby. I've got cheap, $2.99 pyramid or some other chinese brand pads on my fixed gear schwinn's centerpulls and they're perfectly fine. Continentals just don't offer enough modulation to me. Maybe they're less grabby on alloy but as I've understood it's supposed to be the opposite (less grabby on steel).
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Originally Posted by TimJ
I don't like the salmon continentals so much. Actually I haven't tried them on alloy rims, but on steel rims they are VERY grabby. I've got cheap, $2.99 pyramid or some other chinese brand pads on my fixed gear schwinn's centerpulls and they're perfectly fine. Continentals just don't offer enough modulation to me. Maybe they're less grabby on alloy but as I've understood it's supposed to be the opposite (less grabby on steel).
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I have had very god luck with the combination of regular salmon-colored KoolStops ("Eagle"???), Weinmann 999s centerpulls, and aluminum rims.
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Originally Posted by Scooper
I use the Kool-Stop salmon Continentals on my Weinmann centerpulls with Mavic Open Pro alloy rims. ...
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Originally Posted by John E
I have had very god luck with the combination of regular salmon-colored KoolStops ("Eagle"???), Weinmann 999s centerpulls, and aluminum rims.
Thanks to all.

I have a set of the eagles on the way.
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I just ordered the koolstops continentals. I have the same brakes. are these 999 good brakes?

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Originally Posted by Body2big
... are these 999 good brakes? ...
From the late 1950s to the late 1960s, Weinmann Vainqueur 999s, Mafacs Racers and Competitions, and Unversal 61s, all centerpull, were arguably the best brakes available. Thanks to KoolStop pads with conical washers, Mafac no longer has an exclusive lock on pad vertical angle adjustment, and one no longer needs to twist the brake caliper arms to achieve optimal toe-in. Weinmann 999s were good enough brakes to be standard on Schwinn Paramount, Raleigh Professional, Capo Sieger, and numerous other high-end racing bikes, while Bianchi Specialissimas and Peugeot PX-10s came with Universals and Mafacs, respectively, for obvious nationalistic reasons.

If you do decide to use 1960s centerpulls, for your own safety: 1) check the condition of the straddle cable frequently; 2) use KoolStop or other high-performance modern pads; 3) use aluminum rims; 4) consider modern aero brake handles for increased leverage and reduced cable housing length; 5) use modern low-compression cable housings; 6) use the most robust cable stop/hanger you can find.

As I have indicated before, my Weinmann 999s are not bad, but the best brake system in my entire stable is on my mountain bike: SunTour RollerCam front, chainstay-mounted Shimano U-brake, 4-finger Shimano handles, Shimano cable housing, KoolStops all around. THAT is a brakeset!
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