scored for myself a Mitchell today minus wheels,(at my fav price"nuthin"lol)i must admit i know nothing about this bike but it seems to be something of merit,it has a sticker on top of seat post that say,s ishawata 022, but the real bonus is all the gooodies on it (which is what initially caught my eye) both derailluers are campagnolo (c record,82 ? ) and also the crank is campagnolo too, and the brake levers are campagnolo fully drilled, it also has a cinelli stem with a black profile drop bar on it ! dura ace brakes ,and suntour drop outs, also its a really nice metalic red and in reasonable cond too ! i have some ambrosio wheels in my shed that i think would be just perfect for it so i will make it usable instead of my original idea of stripping it for parts !(they are black and will match the bars )so guy,s have i done well ?any info about Mitchell bikes wud be greatly appreciated coz i dont even know where their made ! THANX!

That's one hell of a score, all of that Campy for nothing. Can we see a pic?

you know wot m8,one day i,ll figure out how to post pics,i,m not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to computors , so plz bear with me and i,ll see wot i can do ! (cant promise tho ! , lol)

Ishiwata wasn't bad tubing and I think 022 was their really light stuff.

Ok, pics are like this

Go to www.photobucket.com

Register for an account. There, you will be able to upload your pictures - very simple instructions are given - if you can get the pics from your camera to your PC, you'll be able to do this.

Then, when replying here, you need to find the Insert Image button. It's on the line of formatting buttons at the top of the reply box, and it kinda looks like a yellow square, with something that could be mountains and the sun behind it. If you hover your mouse over the icons above the message box, you'll see info as to what they do, and the one you want is Insert Image.

Clicking that brings up a little box that says "Insert the URL of your image". Now, in Photobucket, when you've uploaded pics, you can see all of them in thumbnail form, and underneath each are a number of boxes containing information. One of them is labelled "URL". You simply copy the information from that box, and paste it into the "Insert URL" box which comes up when you click Insert Image. And that's how it's done.

I may have been wrong. I know someone who has a 20yo Ishiwata frame - still going. 017 or something was the light stuff.

I have a 1978 Trek w/ Ishiwatta 022 tubing. I love it!

I was going to say... a '83 Trek 400 that I scored for a song ($25) and worked up for my daughter is 022 tubing. I had a hard time passing it off to her, and she loves it. very spry

Ishiwata made stuff as light as 015, but I think that guage was practically foil, and very rare to boot. I have a bike built with 022 and have had one with 019 and couldn't tell the diff from the tubing...but the bikes were very different rides. 022 was actually more like the "heavy" stuff, but still not overly heavy and an excellent tubeset in the right hands. I don't know nawthing about Mitchell bikes, is it an Ozzy make?

what makes you say the parts are 1982? C-record was introduced in '85 as far as I know.. does it say pat. 82 on the RD? sounds like it could be super record if they are partially black.

My RB-1 and the XO-1 I sold were both made from Ishiwata 022E tubing. The XO-1 certainly dinged easily enough.

thanx sammyboy for the advice, i have downloaded photobucket and am just waiting for a nice day to take sum pics,soon as i do-there on here !

Mitchell was the son in Sorenson. Sorenson sponsored the AIS for a couple of years until Giant offered them (significantly) more money. Mitchell stickers was used when they repainted a non-Sorenson frame and the owner didn't want to pony up for replacement stickers. You probably have a Hoffy or Kenevans or...

Ahh. I remember going up to the Gold Coast in 1991 and every second bike rider there was on a Sorenson. I'd forgotten all about them.

My 1971 American Eagle [Nishiki] Semi-Pro [Competition] was heavy and extremely dead-feeling, despite having Ishiwata double-butted CrMo. Late 1970s Nishiki frames were FAR more resilient, with a world-class ride, so during that decade, Kawamura must have learned something about framebuilding and/or Ishiwata must have learned something about tubing manufacturing and metallurgy.

I don't doubt you, but my recollection was that my early Nishikis (one Semi-Pro and one Pro) were both built from Tange, not Ishiwata. The Semi was pretty heavy and dead, but the Pro seemed like a big improvement in all respects, though it was also a more correct size and had sew-ups. This was back in the 70s so memory brain cells can be misfiring, but they were not early enough to be American Eagles...I'm sure Kawamura made great advances in design and construction as he went along, based on the Nishiki Superbe I had much later.