Despicable Disgusting Blasphemy!
#26
Originally Posted by cyclotoine
If you wanted to make one of your bikes a fixed gear would you take the best one out of the bunch and do it? Probably not. That bike just screams super or C-record to me.
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The crankset is for sale and I think the owner took the opportunity to showoff his frame.
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1 Super Record bike, 1 Nuovo Record bike, 1 Pista, 1 Road, 1 Cyclocross/Allrounder, 1 MTB, 1 Touring, 1 Fixed gear
1 Super Record bike, 1 Nuovo Record bike, 1 Pista, 1 Road, 1 Cyclocross/Allrounder, 1 MTB, 1 Touring, 1 Fixed gear
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Um I think it looks pretty damn good. Some of us are pretty happy to use conversions. I just converted my Reynolds 753 bike that had a full campy groupo. I can't for the life of me understand the enthusiasm for old campy parts. They look fine and dandy...but if I am going to use a derailer I want one that has a lot of teeth capacity. Why use a derailer if you arent going to climb? The fixie is a solid statement of giving up the bling. Just because it is a Cinelli doesnt mean it was the best frame ever made. I happen to think people are getting to crazy over old crappy outdated derailers. Why on earth would you want to use a Huret or Simplex/ or old Campy when for less than over inflated vintage price you can beat the snot out of an Ultegra or 105 part and not worry about its collector esteem.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
The stays on that particular Technium are steel, I hope - correct?
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Personally, I like conversions. If you are going to ride a fixed gear bike on the road, converting a classic road bike frame makes a lot more sense than running out and buying a Bianchi Pista like the fad-following crowd.
So it doesn't offend me. Just don't dremel off the hangers and bosses.
So it doesn't offend me. Just don't dremel off the hangers and bosses.
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet
Why on earth would you want to use a Huret or Simplex/ or old Campy when for less than over inflated vintage price you can beat the snot out of an Ultegra or 105 part and not worry about its collector esteem.
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#34
Originally Posted by Serendipper
I hear you can get just as drunk on $5.00/gallon wine that comes in a cardboard box just as effectively as a bottle of aged select vintage Bordeaux.
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I'm he kind of guy who'd love to make a fixie out of something like that . . . . .
. . . . . . . only I'd change the decals to Huffy.
. . . . . . . only I'd change the decals to Huffy.
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Originally Posted by mastershake916
I'm sorry, but what are braze-ons?
The things the cable connect to?
The things the cable connect to?
Braze-on
A small fitting permanently attached to a frame. On traditional steel frames these attachments are held on by brazing, but the term "braze-on" is also used for fittings that are welded, glued, rivetted or moulded on to frames of other materials. Typical braze-ons would include cable stops and guides, water bottle cage mounts, shift lever bosses, cantilever brake bosses and cable stops, pump pegs, etc.
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#38
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I think that Cinelli is just perfect. Coversions are great b/c road frames work best on-the road. Duh! Also the frame now sees the light of day instead of being just wall art.
I also agree that the bike should sport both F and R brakes for safety. If you choose to use the original rear wheel then you will not be able to backpedal to slow the rear wheel as that can loosen the rear cog even if it has a BB lockring on it.
The only thing cooler looking is a Cinelli Pista frame with full Campy Pista grouppo. You can buy one (NOS frame) from a shop near me. PM me if you want details. Gerry
I also agree that the bike should sport both F and R brakes for safety. If you choose to use the original rear wheel then you will not be able to backpedal to slow the rear wheel as that can loosen the rear cog even if it has a BB lockring on it.
The only thing cooler looking is a Cinelli Pista frame with full Campy Pista grouppo. You can buy one (NOS frame) from a shop near me. PM me if you want details. Gerry
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Originally Posted by John E
I do strongly believe, however, that a front brake should be required on every bicycle ridden on a public street.
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oh man, I am not going to respond. . . I am not going to respond. . .I am. . .ah screw it
why use old components? because this is the cranky & vintage forum and well, thats what we do.
I don't need 10 cogs to climb, my nuovo, super and corsa record derailleurs wrap enough chain
for me thank you very much. Now let me temper that with the fact that
I'm in Texas and round here we don't have huge hills. If we did my campy ergo 8 is fine, and if
I needed more I'd go with a compact crankset.
sure 105, or ultegra is good stuff, same with veloce and centaur but, for me thats not what I personally
want to put on a vintage bike, others may differ.
A solid statement of giving up the bling? what the hell is that?
tell me you ride fixed to train, to build spin or power, you'll get no arguement from me.
Tell me you ride fixed as a "statement", I'll probably mutter something about ok, hipsterism, and
wonder how riding a Cinelli is giving up bling.
If fixed is giving up the bling how does one justify a vanilla fixie?
C&V is about celebrating the "Bling" as you put it, go look at the classic and vintage rides.
why use old components? because this is the cranky & vintage forum and well, thats what we do.
I don't need 10 cogs to climb, my nuovo, super and corsa record derailleurs wrap enough chain
for me thank you very much. Now let me temper that with the fact that
I'm in Texas and round here we don't have huge hills. If we did my campy ergo 8 is fine, and if
I needed more I'd go with a compact crankset.
sure 105, or ultegra is good stuff, same with veloce and centaur but, for me thats not what I personally
want to put on a vintage bike, others may differ.
A solid statement of giving up the bling? what the hell is that?
tell me you ride fixed to train, to build spin or power, you'll get no arguement from me.
Tell me you ride fixed as a "statement", I'll probably mutter something about ok, hipsterism, and
wonder how riding a Cinelli is giving up bling.
If fixed is giving up the bling how does one justify a vanilla fixie?
C&V is about celebrating the "Bling" as you put it, go look at the classic and vintage rides.
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#42
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From: Denver
Originally Posted by cyclotoine
Sorry, I am not one to get worked up over conversions but this takes the cake as being the worst candidate I have ever seen!
i can kinda see why people don't like these types of conversions. but if you want to ride a fixed gear on the road, this seems better to me than riding a track bike with really tight geometry. but to each his/her own.
EDIT:
this has been discussed in the ssfg forum:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...highlight=stop
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...t=track+street
Last edited by vinnydelnegro; 12-14-06 at 06:11 PM.
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The best FG conversion candidates are nice frames with components that are either seriously outdated, broken or missing.
Right now I have a very nice old touring frame in my garage that could be something very special. Sure, I could restore it to it's original vintage glory, but I just don't have that much vintage campy laying around in my garage.
Right now I have a very nice old touring frame in my garage that could be something very special. Sure, I could restore it to it's original vintage glory, but I just don't have that much vintage campy laying around in my garage.
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At least put a ****ing brake on it.
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I'm with John E. on this one. There's nothing to keep the present or potential future owner from converting back to a geared bike except the parts and a couple of hours.
What's the big deal?
What's the big deal?
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Previous quote paraphrased ' Front brake required'
Because 80% of your stopping power is invested in it. Because it's unsafe to ride without it. Because cagers open doors. Because pedestrians do unexpected things. Because we share our world with kids, dogs, the elderly and otherwise self involved/oblivious people who dont look before running across the street. Because it's what responsible riders require.
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Originally Posted by new_dharma
why?
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Originally Posted by dannyg1
Previous quote paraphrased ' Front brake required'
Because 80% of your stopping power is invested in it. Because it's unsafe to ride without it. Because cagers open doors. Because pedestrians do unexpected things. Because we share our world with kids, dogs, the elderly and otherwise self involved/oblivious people who dont look before running across the street. Because it's what responsible riders require.
DG1
Because 80% of your stopping power is invested in it. Because it's unsafe to ride without it. Because cagers open doors. Because pedestrians do unexpected things. Because we share our world with kids, dogs, the elderly and otherwise self involved/oblivious people who dont look before running across the street. Because it's what responsible riders require.
DG1
thank you
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Originally Posted by new_dharma
having brakes on my bike hasn't kept me from getting doored...paying attention is a better way to avoid the unexpected things, otherwise you are one of the self-involved/oblivious people, but you're operating a vehicle. That front brake is giving you the illusion of safety. The people that I know that ride fixed can stop as quick as most people who have brakes. Being aware of what's going on around you is REALLY what responsible riders require.
thank you
thank you
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did you read what I was responding to??? DG1's statement made it seem like the front brake can SAVE you from all of those things.
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From: Nor~Cal
Originally Posted by new_dharma
did you read what I was responding to??? DG1's statement made it seem like the front brake can SAVE you from all of those things.




