Campagnolo Victory groupset (pictures to drool over)
06-27-08, 10:16 PM
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P.S.: Thanks for quoting that statement from '07. Found a few things up there that I now disagree with - revised it.
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Absolutely correct - it is only worth what you will pay for it.
I put this set together for just under $100 - mind you, I am still short one lever, plus the pedals, seatpost, and hubs that would otherwise make up the entire, original groupset. That said, you could possibly locate a damaged mid-range Italian machine with the entire groupset for $50.
Another case in point: A well-presented Victory RD recently sold on eBay for upwards of $50+. A week later, another complete Victory RD, reasonably presented, about on par in condition, sold for just over $25. I never paid or traded more then $20 worth for the ones I have.
P.S.: This is a rather old thread (2/04/07) - all the components have since been mounted onto my 1984 Raleigh USA Super Course. A year later, and I still don't have that lever...
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I put this set together for just under $100 - mind you, I am still short one lever, plus the pedals, seatpost, and hubs that would otherwise make up the entire, original groupset. That said, you could possibly locate a damaged mid-range Italian machine with the entire groupset for $50.
Another case in point: A well-presented Victory RD recently sold on eBay for upwards of $50+. A week later, another complete Victory RD, reasonably presented, about on par in condition, sold for just over $25. I never paid or traded more then $20 worth for the ones I have.
P.S.: This is a rather old thread (2/04/07) - all the components have since been mounted onto my 1984 Raleigh USA Super Course. A year later, and I still don't have that lever...
-Kurt
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sweet bikes man!!!
looking at the seat on that Super Course makes my ass ache though.
the '84 competition is really cool, I love all the white bits on it.
looking at the seat on that Super Course makes my ass ache though.
the '84 competition is really cool, I love all the white bits on it.
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If they were all 26.8, I doubt if they would ever sell any - no reason why they should not have come in all the usual sizes Campagnolo produced. I have a 27.2 Triomphe/Victory post in my '92 Guerciotti (post from my '87 Basso with Triomphe S3).
That said, if you can hook me up with a 26.8 Victory post (had one in my Raleigh GP that I sold to QuickDraw, wish I had swapped it
), let me know. Could use one for the SC.
Wouldn't mind having a partially white Sante 26.8 post for the Competition either...
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That said, if you can hook me up with a 26.8 Victory post (had one in my Raleigh GP that I sold to QuickDraw, wish I had swapped it
), let me know. Could use one for the SC. Wouldn't mind having a partially white Sante 26.8 post for the Competition either...
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thanks for that info Karmat, i stand corredted. That is a great link BTW. Lots of good info and history.
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If you liked those photos, you might like these detail shots:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/434843-raleigh-usa-pics.html
-Kurt
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/434843-raleigh-usa-pics.html
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Nice parts! I love old Campy! C-record is my favorite group ever made. Much better to look at than ride. I rode a 1989 Athena equipped bike up until 2003. It is scary how much improvement has been made in shifting & stopping. The problem with Campy is in the 80's they changed the look of their parts but not the performance. Lack of innovation almost did them in.
They did give us "Victory" compact cranks before compact cranks were cool!
They did give us "Victory" compact cranks before compact cranks were cool!
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Nice parts! I love old Campy! C-record is my favorite group ever made. Much better to look at than ride. I rode a 1989 Athena equipped bike up until 2003. It is scary how much improvement has been made in shifting & stopping. The problem with Campy is in the 80's they changed the look of their parts but not the performance. Lack of innovation almost did them in.
They did give us "Victory" compact cranks before compact cranks were cool!
They did give us "Victory" compact cranks before compact cranks were cool!
I can say with absolute surety that compact cranks were never 'cool', not now, not then.
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i love my victory grouppo -
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A little closeup of the all-important 3-position stop on the Victory RD.
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I have been building a Victory group up on a Cyclops frame. Can someone please recommend some replacement brake pads? Are the ones listed pads on PBK appropriate? https://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=A0063
Also, I know this is a long shot, but I would love to trade a 27.2 "aero" post for a 27.0 Campy of course.
Also, I know this is a long shot, but I would love to trade a 27.2 "aero" post for a 27.0 Campy of course.
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Use the original brake block holders with these replacement pads:
(Salmon):
https://cgi.ebay.com/Kool-Stop-Brake-...QQcmdZViewItem
(Black):
https://cgi.ebay.com/Kool-Stop-Brake-...QQcmdZViewItem
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(Salmon):
https://cgi.ebay.com/Kool-Stop-Brake-...QQcmdZViewItem
(Black):
https://cgi.ebay.com/Kool-Stop-Brake-...QQcmdZViewItem
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i ahvent replaced the pads on my brakes ( YET ) but i will be very soon . as to the LOWER END poster . there is nothing wrong with this groppo . i have it on my merckx and it works just fine . and actually the rear derailer is superb IMHO . its very smoothe , or maby is just set completly right , for once .
i love my victory grouppo -
i love my victory grouppo -
Use the original brake block holders with these replacement pads:
(Salmon):
https://cgi.ebay.com/Kool-Stop-Brake-...QQcmdZViewItem
(Black):
https://cgi.ebay.com/Kool-Stop-Brake-...QQcmdZViewItem
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(Salmon):
https://cgi.ebay.com/Kool-Stop-Brake-...QQcmdZViewItem
(Black):
https://cgi.ebay.com/Kool-Stop-Brake-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Yep - and don't let anyone say otherwise 
Quite true though - Victory is little more then setting the rear pivot, installing it, and taking it for a spin. That in comparison to the disaster of setting Nuovo Record when it refuses to downshift to the lowest cog under load.
Far from it. I'd count my blessings that these things are still available from anywhere though. Case in point, I'm always cursing the fact that you can't get anything by Kool-Stop locally, if it isn't a Dura-Ace brake pad...
-Kurt
Quite true though - Victory is little more then setting the rear pivot, installing it, and taking it for a spin. That in comparison to the disaster of setting Nuovo Record when it refuses to downshift to the lowest cog under load.
Far from it. I'd count my blessings that these things are still available from anywhere though. Case in point, I'm always cursing the fact that you can't get anything by Kool-Stop locally, if it isn't a Dura-Ace brake pad...
-Kurt
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I'm no Campagnolo expert, but I thought Victory was low end... isn't it?
If your going to sell it, it's what it's worth to the buyer.
If your going to keep it, it's what it's worth to you.
It's Campy. It's beautiful! If that's how the owner feels about it, that's all that should matter.
If your going to sell it, it's what it's worth to the buyer.
If your going to keep it, it's what it's worth to you.
It's Campy. It's beautiful! If that's how the owner feels about it, that's all that should matter.
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Epic thread bump there, Brooklyn, but in answer to the question - it was mid-range. Triomphe was at the low end of the groups (not the derailer sets, but at the bottom of the groups at that time) and followed by 980 and 990. Even still, Triomphe came with what were little more then Nuovo/Super bits with cosmetic changes. Same for Victory; some of Victory's bits had nicer polishing before clear anodizing, and the RD was superior.
Otherwise, both groups - especially Triomphe - are screaming good bargains when you can find them. That said, since I made this post in 2007, Victory has shot up a bit in price; it's no longer as good a deal as Triomphe bits. The best bargain you can do in this respect, today, is to scoop up a Triomphe group and swap the RD out for Victory.
Incidentally, this group long ago found home sweet home:
(Yes, it did take me a looooong time to find that brake lever).
EDIT: Wait - I posted all of this already, didn't I?
-Kurt
Otherwise, both groups - especially Triomphe - are screaming good bargains when you can find them. That said, since I made this post in 2007, Victory has shot up a bit in price; it's no longer as good a deal as Triomphe bits. The best bargain you can do in this respect, today, is to scoop up a Triomphe group and swap the RD out for Victory.
Incidentally, this group long ago found home sweet home:
(Yes, it did take me a looooong time to find that brake lever).
EDIT: Wait - I posted all of this already, didn't I?
-Kurt
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Love these old threads. Quick question: what is the best way to identify the correct model of a Campagnolo groupset/component?
I just picked up a Merckx strada from 86, 87 or 89 with mostly original components but as a newbie I am struggling to nail down the exact groupset. I am missing a few components and would like to start the hunt for a complete set.
Is this rear derailleur a victory s3?
I just picked up a Merckx strada from 86, 87 or 89 with mostly original components but as a newbie I am struggling to nail down the exact groupset. I am missing a few components and would like to start the hunt for a complete set.
Is this rear derailleur a victory s3?
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Welcome to the forums @kolbotn. The best way is to check a site called VeloBase.com and look there. Or you can start a thread about your bike and post some pic.
This beautiful RD is the original Chorus which I believe made its U.S. market début with the '88 model year bikes.
This beautiful RD is the original Chorus which I believe made its U.S. market début with the '88 model year bikes.
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Thank you for replying. I will post my bike and ask for advice and expert knowledge. Great idea.
I will also hunt down the seller/original owner and see what information he can share.
I will also hunt down the seller/original owner and see what information he can share.
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Yes, they did. Spirt was much earlier, Sprint, however was introduced in 1986. The -->Sprint<-- shifters are some of the best I've ever used.
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