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Originally Posted by vpiuva
Nice bike. Gotta love that stem.
Cinelli steel adjustable. A friend found it NOS in the Netherlands and brought to me.
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Originally Posted by dbakl
Cinelli steel adjustable. A friend found it NOS in the Netherlands and brought to me.
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Its actually called a "stayer" stem, used in motorpacing. Not sure they used em on traditional track bikes, but it was too cool not to use. I got the bike pretty rough, someone had converted it to a roadbike by crudely brazing on a derailler hanger, adding clinchers and drilling for brakes from and rear. Brian Baylis did the repairs and fantastic paint, stripping and decals. Just to be different I used some wood rims. The Brooks was handcut into a swallow like my stepfather showed me how they did em in the 50s. Thanks!
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That is a very nice bike! What is the gearing? How is it ridden; around town, on the track or something else? What's motorpacing and why the name "stayer"? Sorry for the 20 questions, I am just curious.
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For comprison's sake, this is a 1977 PAramount Track bike, all OEM (except the front brake, and the fork was drilled at the Factory for that.)
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""Its actually called a "stayer" stem, used in motorpacing. Not sure they used em on traditional track bikes""
Well I know that the Major Taylor adjustable stems look identical and were used for early track bikes. I never was sure of the rationale......maybe the bikes were used for more than 1 rider? I have a mid-70's 3ttt adjustable stem and the slope angle is more road than track.....so I'm not sure about it's intented use.
Well I know that the Major Taylor adjustable stems look identical and were used for early track bikes. I never was sure of the rationale......maybe the bikes were used for more than 1 rider? I have a mid-70's 3ttt adjustable stem and the slope angle is more road than track.....so I'm not sure about it's intented use.
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Originally Posted by iab
That is a very nice bike! What is the gearing? How is it ridden; around town, on the track or something else? What's motorpacing and why the name "stayer"? Sorry for the 20 questions, I am just curious.
Pacing is riding behind another bicycle or motorcycle to increase speed; used for training and there are some events too I believe. "Stayer" I imagine comes from staying with the one being followed, don't know for sure, never rode track myself. Found this online:
stayer - a person or other animal having powers of endurance or perseverance; "the horse that won the race is a good stayer"
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
For comprison's sake, this is a 1977 PAramount Track bike, all OEM (except the front brake, and the fork was drilled at the Factory for that.)


Yeah, apparently you could order the track Paramounts without the chrome lugs and save 50 bucks! I think mine is a '75, but since it was being repainted, I wanted the '73 and earlier seat tube graphics.
Adjustable stems were common on track bikes, but you can see the stayer is quite long. I imagine bikes were shared, but also allowed adjustment for different events, periods of time, conditioning.
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