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Old 04-19-07 | 09:33 AM
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I have strong personal ojbections to CO2:
1) You get one shot per cartridge. If anything goes wrong (tire needs repatching, reseating, whatever), you are out of luck.
2) They are expensive and wasteful of energy and materials.
Feel free to use what you like, but I have to respectfully disagree with these two....

#1 I hear mentioned all the time as a negative against Co2, but in the 3 years I've been using them it has never happened to me. Not once, not ever. and that is with 3 bikes to look after on a ride - mine, my wife's, and my daughters. But I do carry a pump "just in case.". I used it once, when I left the Co2 inflater in a different seat pack.

#2 - Co2 cartridges are ~50 cents each when bought in 24 packs at the local xmart. And the spent cartridges are steel and go into the recycle bin if you're so inclined. I don't understand how they are wasteful of energy, when they are conserving my energy by being used......
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Old 04-19-07 | 10:22 AM
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#1 I hear mentioned all the time as a negative against Co2, but in the 3 years I've been using them it has never happened to me. Not once, not ever.

#2 - Co2 cartridges are ~50 cents each when bought in 24 packs at the local xmart.
+1 on both these points. I mentioned in my earlier post that it might be a good idea to practice at home a time or two with the inflator to get familiar with how it works so that the first time you use it isn't out on the road or trail. And I hear the stories of others having problems, too. But for me, it works flawlessly, I've never had a mishap (and actually enjoy using the silly thing ). And as I mentioned in my earlier post, I also agree about the marketed-for-bb gun CO2 at X-Mart as opposed to buying the marketed-for-bicycles CO2. Way cheaper, and it's the same stuff (just make sure the inflator you buy will take the unthreaded cartridges). That's the only complaint I have about the "nozzle only" inflator I have as opposed to the inflator I have that came built into a mini-pump. The nozzle-only model is compatible with threaded cartridges only, while with the other one I can use the bb gun cartridges. One thing, though, for mountain bikes I often carry a can of "Big Air" which gives me more volume for mtb tires and it's compatible with the nozzle-only inflator-
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Old 04-19-07 | 10:53 AM
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the silca mini holds itself very close to the downtube---you might find clearance
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Old 04-19-07 | 12:28 PM
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+1 for frame pumps. And you can paint 'em:
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Old 04-19-07 | 12:44 PM
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Well no matter what you decide about pumps, your rear brake cable is too short.
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Old 04-19-07 | 10:52 PM
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How do you figure that? It reaches to the brake.......

And you cannot buy CO2 cartridges for 50c in the UK. Xmart doesn't have them. They exist here for cyclists, and professional caterers. I'm just not into it, not while I have working arms.
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Old 04-25-07 | 08:52 PM
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I use a Nashbar mini that comes with a plastic bracket that is easily zip-strip mounted on the seat stay tube. The pump is light, compact, has a good guage, t-handle for leverage, presta/schrader ready and has so far survived 3 seasons...going on number 4.

The pump will put out 110lbs if necessary. I ride with 95lbs both tires. Back when I was on the extreme pressure craze (I know that issue has been mentioned once or twice here **ahem**) I used to ride with 105-110lbs. One day the sidewall weakened on the front creating a bulge that quick went Pfffffft. My first roadside flat. Had that sucker re-tubed, pumped to 95 (instead), cleaned up and riding in less than 10min.

The pump cost 14.95...I have one on each of my vintage roadies.
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Old 04-26-07 | 11:36 AM
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I use a Cyclaire pump - massively efficient and will go up to 120psi in no time. Comes in a case you can strap to the tube as well. Also, lots of good reviews on the web...
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Old 04-26-07 | 12:33 PM
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Well, one of our bargain basement supermarkets which runs weekly specials has bike stuff this week, so I ended up buying a bunch of things, including two water bottles in cages (for our tandem. I have loads of cages, but aluminium water bottles for £2? No chance anywhere else), gloves for both of us, padded underwear, a rain jacket, and a cycling jersey. This is the first time I've bought any bicycle specific clothing, and the jersey was almost completely so I could throw my Mountain Air in the back pocket!
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Old 04-26-07 | 12:38 PM
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I just looked at Cyclaire on line and it looks awesome, but...but...but, everywhere says it pumps to 80, not 120.
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Old 04-26-07 | 12:51 PM
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80 will get you home, no?

I have 1 pump. A Silca with campy head. It fits anywhere, under top tube, on seat tube
and along the seat stays if I'm really hard pressed for space. I bought the velcro straps
to keep it from falling off, 2 works best on the seatstay and one must be careful that the
pump doesn't rotate into the tire (don't ask how I know this).
and, the really good thing is I can pump 120psi no problemo, no C02 cartridges
banging around in my seatbag or pocket.
Chrome pump matches any bike made, and look oh so classic.

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Old 04-26-07 | 02:58 PM
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Yes, 80 will get me home, but if there's a version that will do 120, I want that one, dammit! I'm really intrigued by the Cyclaire thing. Looks like it would fit in my wedge. That said, chrome is nice.....
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Old 04-26-07 | 03:37 PM
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Cycling Plus did a review of the cyclaire about a year ago in their equiptment section
and they really liked it. Gave it a 9 if I recall correctly. I've actually thought that it might
be a good thing to have. . . wonder if it comes in Chrome?

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Old 04-26-07 | 04:00 PM
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Recently bought a Topeak Road Morph G (has the gauge). Works great. I deflated my tires and tried it out. Pumping to 100 psi was no problem, (the body did get hot due to the friction of the compressed air). I attached it to the seat tube braze ons for the second bottle carrier. Highly recommended.
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Old 04-26-07 | 04:02 PM
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The cyclaire I have definitely goes up to 120 as that's what I pumped my new road bike up to on it.
Check this: https://www.cyclaire.com/buyone.html

You want the cyclaire "bicycle pump" - you might have been looking at the "rapid" which only goes to 80psi (it's the grey one, not the red - see the pics etc).

Bit confusing on the site. But I can guarantee from personal use that's it's fecking miraculous!

PS: Comes with a bag which will velcro mount to yer pipes. Did you say you'd got water cages kicking about? Only I've not got one on me new peugeot... (see: https://bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=291326)

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Old 04-27-07 | 03:26 PM
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Shedloads of 'em. I'll dig them out, and send you pics.
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Old 04-27-07 | 06:02 PM
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I just tried a Quicker Pro for the first time today, and it was really (really) good. Short enough to fit in some larger seat bags, and certainly a jersey pocket, but can pump to 110-120 very easily (and probably much higher). It uses a unique design that compresses air on the downstroke, and puts the air into the tire on the upstroke, making it the same volume for every pump, and much easier to pump at really high pressures. And it's small. Did I mention it's small?
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