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Sammyboy 10-01-07 03:50 AM

Ok, so first off, tyres for the RSW 16 - Schwalbe do Big Apples in an appropriate size. Here's a link to a UK supplier that does 3 different 305 tyres. Second - 3 speed fixed. I believe that if you look at Sheldon's list of SA hubs, there were more than just the ASC that were fixed. That ASC on eBay will go to huge money And finally, my 3 speeds.....

Here's my 4 speed Raleigh, with an FG wide ratio generator 4 speed. Wish it was black! It's awaiting new tyres, otherwise it'd be getting a lot of use:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/P7050003.jpg
My 3 speed tandem, loaded and ready for camping. Hard work on the hills!:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/P8170007.jpg
My as yet unfinished lightweight 3 speed. Early 70's Dawes Galaxy frame, alloy rimmed wheels with an AG generator hub, period lightweight plastic mudguards with a chrome effect strip, and a Pletscher rack. All it needs is for me to put the chainguard on, install a cotterless BB and crankset, and I'll be good to go.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/P4020008.jpg
My Raleigh 20 in commuting guise - this takes me across London all the time. Shortly to be upgraded to a Nexus 8, all things being equal.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/P6040010.jpg
My 1940 HR Bates BAR, with an FM close ratio 4 speed hub. Probably the finest race bike of it's day. Lots of restoration to do here!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/DSC00183.jpg

I'm also converting an old Falcon frame into an allweather urban assault/commuter - 5 speed SA Sprinter hubs with drum brakes, wide steel rims - I'll post pics when it's finished.

Gary Fountain 10-01-07 05:41 AM

This is an old bike of mine dating from the 40's. It has a 4 speed Osgear gear system. I know it's not what this thread is all about (SA) but it is 4 speed.

The bike is great to ride and weighs in at about 22 lb. - not bad for the '40's. The gears change without incident as long as they are not under pressure and the chain tensioning arm can be 'trimmed' to give an optimum tension.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC00508-1.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC00511-1.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...4/DSC00513.jpg

Sammyboy 10-01-07 07:06 AM

That. Is. Awesome.

Sianelle 10-01-07 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Sammyboy (Post 5366227)
Here's my 4 speed Raleigh, with an FG wide ratio generator 4 speed. Wish it was black! It's awaiting new tyres, otherwise it'd be getting a lot of use:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/P7050003.jpg

I don't know I've always liked the green ones :) I have a Hercules in a similar shade of dark green with fine gold lining and I've always considered it to be a very smart looking bicycle. Love your Dawes and Bates by the way :D

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9690/worship2sx7.gifhttp://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9690/worship2sx7.gifhttp://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9690/worship2sx7.gif

My word that's a beautiful bicycle.

Gary Fountain 10-01-07 07:14 PM

Hi Sammyboy, I really would like to see all your bikes; from what i've seen they're all interesting. Your interest in bikes is much broader than mine and I do enjoy seeing British craftsmanship. I do like the 'look' of your 4 speed Raleigh. They were popular in Australia in the 60's and I always wanted one as a kid. I haven't seen one for quite some time although I bought my daughter a 3 speed SA brown Raleigh a few years back. It was in good condition but she didn't take long to totally wreck it.

Gary.

MnHPVA Guy 10-01-07 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Sianelle (Post 5304307)
I've seen a period Sturmey Archer advert for a fixie three speed hub, but I think they weren't available for very long.

1948 to 1963. Not long compared to the AW, but longer than most SA models. Given the long run, and the prices they fetch today, suggesting scarcity, I assume either they didn't sell a lot in any one year, or they were sold to the sort of rider who would wear them out.

viscount 10-17-07 12:33 PM

My latest 3 speed.....
1978 Raleigh Traveller in almost immaculate condition.
A true time-warp.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g5...raveller_1.jpg

You either like these standard production machines, or you don't.
I emphatically do.
Especially when they turn up 'as new'.

But they fetch no money on ebay.
People think the £49.99 glossy objects in Halfords and the like are better....

This one is 30 years old and ready for another 30 with modest attention.
How do we/you/I get the message across?

Sammyboy 10-17-07 01:03 PM

What did you pay for that, Viscount? It's a shame you don't live nearer, you'd probably make a good ride partner!

Sianelle 10-17-07 03:23 PM

Viscount, my word that's a nice Raleigh. Here in NZ similar models of bikes from the local bike industry were available for a long time. There's nothing better for local about town riding in my opinion.

Sixty Fiver 10-17-07 11:15 PM

I suppose I should post some pics of my three speeds here...

My 1978 Raleigh Superbe...

http://members.shaw.ca/feynn/biking/Superbedone.JPG

http://members.shaw.ca/feynn/biking/Superbedone2.JPG


My newly acquired Phillips 20... I have a 1951 AW hub with a drum brake that I am thinking of installing.

http://members.shaw.ca/feynn/biking/...ipstwentya.jpg


My newly built Kuwahara Cascade (quad butted and lugged Ishiwata frame) with a Shimano 3 speed hub...it's my all purpose 3 spd as it handles both the roads and the MUTS really well. The 3 spd hub was laced to a double walled Mavic wheel and the dropouts respaced to 110 mm and everything on the bike is double tough.

http://members.shaw.ca/feynn/biking/kuwie3spd4.jpg

viscount 10-18-07 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Sammyboy (Post 5471214)
What did you pay for that, Viscount? It's a shame you don't live nearer, you'd probably make a good ride partner!

I swapped an RSW Mk 1 for it, off of a friend.
And a Raleigh Winner for the other. (I had two spare)
Been trying to convert my friends to RSWs and other 3 speeds.
It's working!!

The RSWs cost me £30.
And we all (3) went on a mad trip up onto the Malvern hills last week in convoy. On RSWs!!
If you haven't seen the pics, check this:

http://flickr.com/photos/bikesruz/1541559066/

and there's more if you follow the pics....

Three of them in convoy has got to be a rare sight these days!
And we had loads of fun doing it.

I keep coming across these 'one off' Raleighs, but it's hard work passing them on.

viscount 10-22-07 06:43 AM

[QUOTE=Sixty Fiver;5475516]I suppose I should post some pics of my three speeds here...

My 1978 Raleigh Superbe...

http://members.shaw.ca/feynn/biking/Superbedone.JPG

http://members.shaw.ca/feynn/biking/Superbedone2.JPG


Love your Superbe Sixty Fiver!
Is it original spec with the hockeystick chain-guard?

I got a 1980 one (must be one of the last) with the full chain-case and am replacing it with a hockeystick.
Mines also got the combined dyno/rear hub which makes me wonder if the US spec bikes were different from the UK versions.
But then mine has the roller brakes so it is a different model.

oldroads 10-22-07 02:46 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Some Sturmey-Archer shots.

Sianelle 10-22-07 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=viscount;5498528]

Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 5475516)
I got a 1980 one (must be one of the last) with the full chain-case and am replacing it with a hockeystick.

Hold on tight to that full chaincase because they're like gold and almost impossible to find. It seems everybody took them off their bikes and of course they got lost or went out in the rubbish :(
My two bikes with full chaincases still retain their original chains and the chains are beautifully clean and are in superb condition.

jwbnyc 10-22-07 05:57 PM

Nice QP and Vapor. ;)


Originally Posted by Dirtdrop (Post 5316612)
Neal

That's your pulley wheel, but I used a new clamp. I chucked the wheel in my drill press and polished it, but not so much as to remove all of the patina. A piece of Carbon fiber tubing with an arrow nock glued to the end made a perfect jam-fit arbor. I have a lot of broken carbon fiber tubes from my daughter's days as a competition dual line kite flyer.
http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/19...425x425Q85.jpg
Roll-Monroe-Co

It's a two-part automotive paint called Hot Rod Flatz. There is no clearcoat. I polished and waxed it to a satin finish after it dried. It's highly toxic and shouldn't be applied without a fresh air breathing system. system.
Pornographic? That's disturbing!

MnHPVA Guy

The RRA is just awesome! It's what my Carlton only pretends to be.


Grand Bois 10-22-07 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by jwbnyc (Post 5501765)
Nice QP and Vapor. ;)

The Quantum Pro was a gift from Mark Reed, the designer and company president. She was very good. Sponsored at 13. She was the youngest Master's level competitor in the country at one time.

Her new sport is racking up speeding tickets with her Buick Gran Sport. :mad:

viscount 10-23-07 01:32 PM

[QUOTE=Sianelle;5501462]

Originally Posted by viscount (Post 5498528)

Hold on tight to that full chaincase because they're like gold and almost impossible to find. It seems everybody took them off their bikes and of course they got lost or went out in the rubbish :(
My two bikes with full chaincases still retain their original chains and the chains are beautifully clean and are in superb condition.

I will hold onto it (in case I sell it) but you got to say it looks better with the hockey-stick version.
Proof above. Sixty Fivers is a cool Superbe, even if it ain't original (prove me wrong! It might be US spec.)
Looks less heavy, + I keep my chains clean anyways.

wahoonc 10-23-07 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=viscount;5507433]

Originally Posted by Sianelle (Post 5501462)

I will hold onto it (in case I sell it) but you got to say it looks better with the hockey-stick version.
Proof above. Sixty Fivers is a cool Superbe, even if it ain't original (prove me wrong! It might be US spec.)
Looks less heavy, + I keep my chains clean anyways.

Viscount,
I suspect it may be a Spec difference. Mine is pretty much the same. BTW mine does have a Presstube rack it just hadn't been mounted in the pictures yet.;)

Aaron:)
1972 Raleigh Superbe
http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/87...500x500Q85.jpg

Sixty Fiver 10-23-07 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=viscount;5507433]

Originally Posted by Sianelle (Post 5501462)

I will hold onto it (in case I sell it) but you got to say it looks better with the hockey-stick version.
Proof above. Sixty Fivers is a cool Superbe, even if it ain't original (prove me wrong! It might be US spec.)
Looks less heavy, + I keep my chains clean anyways.

My Superbe hits the curb at 42 pounds.

Mine is a Canadian version and is all original except for the B66 saddle and Raleigh quill pedals...full chainguards are a UK /European thing and are rarely seen here (on Sports and Superbes) but if I ever found one I'd install it.

viscount 10-24-07 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=wahoonc;5508833]

Originally Posted by viscount (Post 5507433)

Viscount,
I suspect it may be a Spec difference. Mine is pretty much the same. BTW mine does have a Presstube rack it just hadn't been mounted in the pictures yet.;)

Aaron:)
1972 Raleigh Superbe
http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/87...500x500Q85.jpg

Aaron, you are obviously right there about the specs.
But the Superbes do look better, and lighter, without the full chain-case.

Mine is coming OFF when I can get the cotter-pin out.
(The threaded portion bent and broke off while I was trying to remove it!!)
I also removed the (rusty) steel mudguards and replaced them with black SKS plastics.
When I weighed the removed items they were 1Kg!

Still it will be OK when I've done the work.
I'm just side-tracked at the moment with a newly collected 1930/32 Swift.
Can't find much anywhere about it yet!

YoKev 10-25-07 05:17 AM

Man, all of these folders!

I have a Chiorda folder, but the brake calipers are totally trash; they need to be replaced and I can't find suitable replacements.

viscount 11-01-07 02:02 PM

Just thought this thread needs a kick-start so here are two classy Raleighs that deserve exposure here.
Not mine, they belong to a proper Raleigh fan I know in Italy.

This is a 55 Superbe:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g5...s55Superbe.jpg

And finally, the ultimate Raleigh Roadster:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g5...alRoadster.jpg
Ain't that nice?

roseskunk 11-01-07 02:17 PM

here's the one that got me started... a clean sports. she's got a brooks b-66 now and a green carradice bag.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/_A1B8337.jpg

roseskunk 11-01-07 02:19 PM

then this one followed me home last week. three speed coaster brake... a few dings but i love this girl!

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/_A1B0905.jpg

roseskunk 11-01-07 02:21 PM

another sports, a tourist, a sprite and a twenty. all in the past six months. and that's just the raleighs...more pics to follow...


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