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Old 08-15-07 | 06:32 PM
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old PUCH need help identifying!

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I have an old PUCH road bike I pulled out of the trash and am wondering if anyone can tell me anything about it based on the serial number: 1907919. it's got a copper plating but painted originally baby blue i believe. There are no decals or anything, but I could just make out the word PUCH when I stripped the paint, leaving it copper. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-15-07 | 08:28 PM
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;

Components? Pictures? Integral derailleur hanger? Forged versus stamped dropouts?

The 1970s low-end Bergmeister was copper-plated.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Old 08-16-07 | 12:25 PM
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Thanks for the help. The dropouts are stamped and without hangers. There are hooks on the downtube for a pump and there is internal cable routers through the top tube. I don't know about the components since i scrapped them and just kept the frame/fork. Would anything else be helpful? Thanks.
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Old 08-16-07 | 09:34 PM
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What are the outer diameters of the seatpost and the seat tube? The smaller the difference between the two, i.e., the thinner the tubing wall, the more likely you have a butted frame (double-butted top tube and downtube, single-butted seat tube). Typical numbers for d.b. Reynolds or Columbus would be 27.2mm for the seatpost and 28.6mm for the seat tube, indicating a tubing wall thickness of only 1.4/2 = 0.7mm. A straight gauge Reynolds or Columbus frame might take a 26.4mm seatpost, for a tubing wall thickness of 2.2/2 = 1.1mm. A plain carbon steel frame may take an even thinner seatpost, with correspondingly thicker-walled tubing.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Old 08-17-07 | 12:44 PM
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My Puch Bergmeister was copper plated, had no derailer hanger and had internal top tube cable routing. It was gaspipe, but it looked nice. That's all I can remember after about 45 years.
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