Suntour Derailleur help
09-08-07 | 01:46 AM
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Suntour Derailleur help
I've found an old Suntour X1 rear derailleur for my vintage touer. I also have at my disposal a ShimanoSTX and Shimano Deore LX. Anyone know how the Suntour compares? Whichever will be combined with barend shifters (probably), on friction, so no indexing worries.
09-08-07 | 06:51 AM
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09-08-07 | 09:15 AM
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
I love SunTour rear derailleurs! I have a short-cage Cyclone II on the Peugeot and an XC-7000 on the Schwinn, and I was much happier with a lowly V-Luxe than with the brand-correct Campagnolo 980 which currently graces Capo #1.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
09-08-07 | 09:39 AM
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I've had very good luck with Suntour derailleurs (and shifters for that matter). I just got a 24 year old bike with Cyclone derailleurs and all of the joints and pivots are amazingly solid. If you try to wiggle the front cage, it has no play whatsoever. I can't claim that about any of my others.
09-08-07 | 02:20 PM
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The Deore LX is fairly high end, but the STX is not. I'm not saying the STX is not a good derailer, because the two I've come across worked just fine, but they are not high in the Shimano rankings. IMHO the Suntour and the LX are your two choices.
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09-08-07 | 06:24 PM
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I am running a Deore LX RD with Dura-Ace Bar-Cons on friction. Smooth as butter.........
Oh, Rear is nine speed 12-32.
Oh, Rear is nine speed 12-32.
09-08-07 | 07:15 PM
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Suntour Cyclone is my favorite on looks and performance, but I'm quickly learning to love semi modern 105. The version that is pearl silver, and has dual pivot calipers. The FD/RD I just put on my peugeot shifts as nicely as the Cyclone M-II on my Trek! I have never found a bad performing Suntour derailleur, though. Make sure the cable has unhindered movement, and they're good to go.
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09-08-07 | 10:30 PM
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I have a Suntour Cyclone rear and Mountech front derailers on my touring bike that I shift with 1975 vintage Campy downtube levers. All very good quality, as good as the Shimano Deore on my 1987 Fisher mountain bike. Both bikes have Biopace triple cranksets with a 14-28 freewheel on the touring bike and 14-32 on the MTB.
09-09-07 | 05:06 AM
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This can be either a good, or a bad, feature. It depends on the application. If the Deore LX is used with bar ends in ratcheting friction, I would say its a bad thing, as it would be too easy to shift across multiple cogs when a single shift is intended. I've used Suntour ratcheting shifters in friction, and the 'feel' is much better with a good banded spring stiffly sprung Suntour RD (similar to the X1 upthread) than with a light action Shimano coil spring RD (specifically a current version Shimano Deore LX rd).
OTOH, if the Deore LX is matched up with shimano bar ends, the shifter action and light action coil spring might mate just right--I've never tried, so I can't report.
