dual pivot brakes
08-13-03 | 07:42 AM
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dual pivot brakes
I have a set of Weinmann "Symetric" calipers which seem to be dual pivot. Then I learned that Altenberger produced d-p`s back in the `60`s. Is that the earliest for this brake? Can anyone post a pic of the Alt.`s? What do you know, and when did you know it?
08-13-03 | 07:52 AM
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I can't tell you what I know, but I knew it before anybody else!
Seriously, I am somewhat familiar with the altenbergers. I remember their dual-pivot design(nothing new under the sun is there-anatomic cut out saddles pre-date ww1).
They were an economy type brake with relatively cheap stampings and were found on entry level bike boom bikes. Very soft through the lever.
Shimano has beefed up the design quite significantly with modern manufacturing techniques available. Campagnolo has followed suit.
I still don't think I need that much more braking than a single pivot though and still prefer their lighter weight.
Seriously, I am somewhat familiar with the altenbergers. I remember their dual-pivot design(nothing new under the sun is there-anatomic cut out saddles pre-date ww1).
They were an economy type brake with relatively cheap stampings and were found on entry level bike boom bikes. Very soft through the lever.
Shimano has beefed up the design quite significantly with modern manufacturing techniques available. Campagnolo has followed suit.
I still don't think I need that much more braking than a single pivot though and still prefer their lighter weight.
08-13-03 | 11:23 AM
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08-13-03 | 06:35 PM
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Only Altenbergers I've experience with are centerpulls on a heavy framed bike boom import called a Del Rimo or something like that. Put it together for my father in law and don't think he's ridden it much.
I like modern dual pivots, like them alot actually. On my otherwise Campy SR Basso I've put on a set of dp Records.
I like modern dual pivots, like them alot actually. On my otherwise Campy SR Basso I've put on a set of dp Records.
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08-15-03 | 07:51 PM
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
The Altenberger centerpulls of old are a far cry from modern dual-pivot sidepulls. Dual-pivot sidepulls stay centered and therefore can be set up with minimal spread in the open position. This, in turn, permits one to use them with high-leverage (and therefore long-travel) control handles.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
08-15-03 | 10:35 PM
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This link discusses the Altenberger dual pivot side-pull brakes, and Shimano's turn to the dual-pivot design when altenbergers patent ran out:
www.63xc.com/willm/alhonga.htm
And MichaellW posted the link to the Classic Rendezvous site in his post above, but I downloaded a photo of the GB dual pivot sidepull that CR speculates was either sold to or partnered with Altenberger:
www.63xc.com/willm/alhonga.htm
And MichaellW posted the link to the Classic Rendezvous site in his post above, but I downloaded a photo of the GB dual pivot sidepull that CR speculates was either sold to or partnered with Altenberger:
