Had a friend give me a mid 70's (?) vintage Concord Raven and it has a silver/mirror-like sticker that says "Araya 120" on it. Nothing else. It's a lugged frame, not a particularly light bike. Does anyone know what kind of tubing Araya 120 might be?

Does anyone have any info on the bike at all? It's pretty hard to find anything on it.

I appreciate it, thanks folks.

Didn't this get answered? I could have sworn someone answered this. Did I ask for photos yet?

East Hill

Foamy, East Hill, See if this works for you. The second post is from T-Mar. Hope this helps.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ighlight=araya

This is seriously sad when I can remember reading threads that are over a year old.

Time for me to admit I am addicted to this forum.

Thanks roccobike .

East Hill

Hey Roccobike, thanks for the lead, I had read that and the only thing I came away with is that it may behoove me the measure the seatpost. And that, I will. East Hill, no, you hadn't asked yet, but yes, if I get home early enough to have some daylight left, I'll take a shot or two of the bike and post them on this thread. I also picked up an un-identified, 60's style cruiser that I'm looking forward to rebuilding. What really excites me is that these will be my first (pro-quality) re-paints, and I'm looking forward to that extremely.

That would be great, foamy.

Even if you don't necessarily personally benefit, you may add enough information to the bit that's here to help someone else out down the line.

And we just like photos . Oh, take some photos of the cruiser, too!

East Hill

Yes, that is your best bet. As a rule of thumb, for Japanese frames;

hi-tensile steel - 26.2mm and under
plain gauge CrMo - 26.2 - 26.8 mm
butted CrMo or manganese alloy - 26.4mm and over

Unfortunately there is some overlap, so there is no definitive answer if you are in the grey zones. And Araya is not one of the major manufacturers, so they may have pushed the grey zones a little further. Please post your findings for future reference. TIA.

Edit: Don't forgot to check if an undersize post has been used. This will give a false measurement. The easiest check for this is to ensure that the binder slot in the back of seat tube is not narrower at the top, when the post is in place and the cinch bolt is tight.

Okay, I finally got to take some photos. This is the sticker I was asking about:


Here's the headbadge and a profile:

Rear derailer is Shimano Eagle with a Shimano Thunderbird front derailer. Who knows what the crankset is, it appears to be flat stamped.


And, just for kicks and someone may know what this bike is:

It was badly painted with a brush and has "Huffy" scribbled on the chainguard, though I'm told this was all for deception, to make the bike look cheap and unattractive so as not to be picked off at college. Bottom line is I don't know what it is. It was a dark metallic maroon originally. I really like this one. Nice curves, though it is a stamped and pressed rear drop out.

Any info on either of these bikes would be greatly appreciated. Thanks folks!

The Concord is almost certainly hi-tensile steel. The component mix of a steel, cottered crank, stem shifters, Shimano Eagle derailleurs and Dia-Compe or Weinmann center-pull brakes are all typical of an early 1970s, entry level model. This frames on bicycles of that era and level were almost exclusively hi-tensile steel.