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Old 03-13-15, 06:54 AM
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Makes me wonder, what's the OLDEST frame that has been brifterized?
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Killah bike. Nice build, neat frame. Welcome to the forum.

Nice touches with the attention to detail, Flite saddle, classic bars and stem. Great parallel tubing with the triple triangle.
Clean, meant for business, good components, and half the cost of a comparable new bike, will outlast you and I.

Of course, now that you've made your debut, your sophomore project will be graded on a 5-point scale.
Haha, thanks. Might build something up for my wife when the money is available. I'll aim for a 5/5
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Originally Posted by specialnag
I've been reading through this thread and thought I should finally post mine:

Nashbar with Campy Veloce. Still waiting on a few parts

you will be very happy with the Veloce groupset. Great bang for the money. looks great and performs even better.
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
Makes me wonder, what's the OLDEST frame that has been brifterized?
I did an '81 Centurion Semi Pro (8-sp Campy Ergo). It definitely took more work than bikes a mere 5 years newer.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I did an '81 Centurion Semi Pro (8-sp Campy Ergo). It definitely took more work than bikes a mere 5 years newer.
Why was that? Dropout spacing or something else?
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
Why was that? Dropout spacing or something else?
1-Dropout spacing from 126 to 130 was not an issue, but with chrome-under-paint, sometimes the paint decides to flake off and leave.

2-Changing from nutted calipers to modern calipers compatible with the Ergo lever pull, drilled one hole (back of fork).

3-Cable routing-DT cable stops had to be on a strap (Campy) because the previous DT shifters were piggy-backs.
Then I had to trim ferrules to fit in the DT stops. I didn't want the modern DT cable stops. The old straps are more elegant/bling.

4-Cable routing-BB shell area 1-Luckily, the RD cable had it's stop above the R chain stay, allowing a clamp-on double cable guide.

4-Cable routing-BB shell area 2-The FD cable guide has to get the cable rearward and around that ST, so it doesn't rub. Placement was critical.

5-FD cable stop if you don't use a newer FD. I used a stainless braided piece between the cable guide and the OEM FD.

6-Wrapping two cable housings to each side of Cinelli 64-42 bars. It can look a little bulky depending on the wrap you use.

It came out very well, for which I was grateful to Centurion (it could have been much worse).
Still, when I got a '79 from cb400bill, I kept it OEM.
Would I do it again? Yes, with the right bike, possibly my near-mint Lotu Classique.
(My wife says "but then it wouldn't be Classique...."... like I asked her.)

I've considered doing it to about a '78 Super Corsa.
They'd probably kick me off the forum for it.

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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
1-Dropout spacing from 126 to 130 was not an issue, but with chrome-under-paint, sometimes the paint decides to flake off and leave.

2-Changing from nutted calipers to modern calipers compatible with the Ergo lever pull, drilled one hole (back of fork).

3-Cable routing-DT cable stops had to be on a strap (Campy) because the previous DT shifters were piggy-backs.
Then I had to trim ferrules to fit in the DT stops. I didn't want the modern DT cable stops. The old straps are more elegant/bling.

4-Cable routing-BB shell area 1-Luckily, the RD cable had it's stop above the R chain stay, allowing a clamp-on double cable guide.

4-Cable routing-BB shell area 2-The FD cable guide has to get the cable rearward and around that ST, so it doesn't rub. Placement was critical.

5-FD cable stop if you don't use a newer FD. I used a stainless braided piece between the cable guide and the OEM FD.

6-Wrapping two cable housings to each side of Cinelli 64-42 bars. It can look a little bulky depending on the wrap you use.

It came out very well, for which I was grateful to Centurion (it could have been much worse).
Still, when I got a '79 from cb400bill, I kept it OEM.
Would I do it again? Yes, with the right bike, possibly my near-mint Lotu Classique.
(My wife says "but then it wouldn't be Classique...."... like I asked her.)

I've considered doing it to about a '78 Super Corsa.
They'd probably kick me off the forum for it.
Thanks for the info. I'm collecting parts for my first brifter conversion project (my first bike with indexed shifting, actually). Is there some reason why you can't just route the cable through the braze-on guide above the shell and through the stop above the chainstay? The Mercian I'm picking up is set up that way.
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
Makes me wonder, what's the OLDEST frame that has been brifterized?
being newish here one of the first things I did was all 170something pages of this thread. way back there's a Hutchinson from the 60s maybe 70s if I'm remembering correctly.
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
Thanks for the info. I'm collecting parts for my first brifter conversion project (my first bike with indexed shifting, actually). Is there some reason why you can't just route the cable through the braze-on guide above the shell and through the stop above the chainstay? The Mercian I'm picking up is set up that way.
When you are done, remind me to revoke your membership in the Anti-Brifter Club.
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Originally Posted by gaucho777
When you are done, remind me to revoke your membership in the Anti-Brifter Club.
There's no hurry. I assume this build is going to take me forever, so I'll relish my card-carrying status while I still can. Are you just trolling this thread hoping to bust people @gaucho777?
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
Makes me wonder, what's the OLDEST frame that has been brifterized?
I brifterized my 1979 Miyata 912, now on its 3rd, 8-spd Campagnolo/Sachs version as shown. Spread the rear dropouts to 130mm and drilled the fork for the 2nd, 7-spd version about 12 years ago. Not as many steps were involved as RobbieTunes' Centurion. I already had the strap-on DT cable stop and didn't need any stepdown cable ferrules. Medium reach dual pivot brakes were needed and there's room for 32mm tires, but 28's are better because of chainstay clearance. I'm sure there are older bikes on this thread.

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Originally Posted by Italuminium
Makes me wonder, what's the OLDEST frame that has been brifterized?
I have my '78 Trek TX700 built with 10 speed STIs. Probably older out there.
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
Thanks for the info. I'm collecting parts for my first brifter conversion project (my first bike with indexed shifting, actually). Is there some reason why you can't just route the cable through the braze-on guide above the shell and through the stop above the chainstay? The Mercian I'm picking up is set up that way.
No issue at all, kind of a benefit, actually.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I've considered doing it to about a '78 Super Corsa.
They'd probably kick me off the forum for it.
i've done an '80 SC, and i'm still here.
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Originally Posted by rebelcontender
he guys, im just about th start building an old guericotti road bike up using a mix of 10speed campy parts. i thought it would be great to have a thread that showed bikes that others have added modern STI"s or Ergo shifters to. post em up people!!!
Ok... Here is my upgraded Vitus 992 with Campagnolo Athena 2010. I f...ing love this bike!!!
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Originally Posted by gaucho777
When you are done, remind me to revoke your membership in the Anti-Brifter Club.
While you're at it, you're going to have to suspend mine, at least temporarily. I just bought a cheap Lemond Zurich set up with STI600 8-speed. Frame too small and brifters supposedly buggered and only good for scrap, but I fixed them with almost ridiculously low effort, and have been riding it the last couple days.

I'm actually kind of enjoying, too, so perhaps a hefty fine is order.
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Ciocc with 10spd Campy Veloce. Could do the downtube shifter thing. Quill stem would have been nice, but I like the larger bar. Took pains to keep everything alloy silver though, even down to the box-section rims.
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Colnago Master

Hi guys/girls,

Here is one of my 'modernised' steel bikes.
It's a '85 Colnago Master in (I'm told) rare, pearl celeste paint with original decals.
I bought the frameset from Italy, and then built it up with 9-speed Campy Record. The frame is (quite obviously, hence the hectic saddle - bar drop) a couple of sizes too small for me, but I had to have it.
Although I don't really ride her, she is still one of my favourites for sure.


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Originally Posted by wazzafpe
Hi guys/girls,

Here is one of my 'modernised' steel bikes.
It's a '85 Colnago Master in (I'm told) rare, pearl celeste paint with original decals.
I bought the frameset from Italy, and then built it up with 9-speed Campy Record. The frame is (quite obviously, hence the hectic saddle - bar drop) a couple of sizes too small for me, but I had to have it.
Although I don't really ride her, she is still one of my favourites for sure.

wow, perfection.
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Originally Posted by mshu
My club fuji with 7sp tourney shifters. Getting ready for a new crank and clipless pedals. suggestions?
I don't have a new photo yet, but I added 105 8 speed brifters to this 1989 Club Fuji that my son rides. The only other change was a slightly wider handlebar.
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I f[iretruck]ing love this bike!!
Great looking bike!
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Originally Posted by sappie66

Ciocc with 10spd Campy Veloce. Could do the downtube shifter thing. Quill stem would have been nice, but I like the larger bar. Took pains to keep everything alloy silver though, even down to the box-section rims.
i really like that frame, nice colour and the twist is cool. you don't see chrome to the top of the stays often. very nice.
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Originally Posted by wazzafpe
Hi guys/girls,

Here is one of my 'modernised' steel bikes.
It's a '85 Colnago Master in (I'm told) rare, pearl celeste paint with original decals.
I bought the frameset from Italy, and then built it up with 9-speed Campy Record. The frame is (quite obviously, hence the hectic saddle - bar drop) a couple of sizes too small for me, but I had to have it.
Although I don't really ride her, she is still one of my favourites for sure.

That is a shame you don't ride her!!! Absolutely gorgeous! Hey, if you don't ride her, mount her on a wall. She is a piece of art.
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We don't have the safest roads around here and she really is such a beaut that I do treat her as art, mostly for display. Unfortunately amazing bikes are really hard to come by here in South Africa, so those of us that have them need to really take care of them.
I have 3 classics that I do ride very regularly, so I don't feel guilty putting my favourites on display only.
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