Kia Ora. C'mon you human encyclopaedii - can you help me with this Pinarello frame? Bought 2nd hand a couple of years ago from the original owner. He'd bought it new in Oregon I think. Maybe 1984. Anyway, the paint chips like crazy, and underneath it appears to be chromed all-over. Was that normally the case, and if so, is anyone able to ID the frame/model? Most of the stickers have gone west. Can't quite read the Columbus sticker either. It has a metal head badge. I've checked bulgier.net, but it falls through the gaps (more braze-ons than an '81, older design fork crown than an '85). It still has most of an NR groupset, with cinelli stem and bars. Seat, wheels and pedals are non-original. The BB stamp is S747. Oh yeah, and she rides like a dream....

My thinking is that your Pinarello is a late 70's Columbus SL Montello. The 2 little screwholes on the derailleur hanger indicate that the bike was built from around late 78 to approx 1980 or shortly thereafter.
to fit Campy's Portacatena chain hanger gizmo.Full frame chroming was/is common to many builders where chrome detailling is featured over the entire frame including the headlugs or over the entire rear triangle & halfway up the top & downtubes for rear triangle + seatube detailling . The obvious drawbck is a more chip-prone paint finish.

Some one will correct me if I'm wrong but I beleive the Montello didn't appear until '85ish. They also have internal toptube brake routing. I have an '87. When stripping the paint the whole frame is chromed but blasted rough so paint will adhere. Some places rougher than others.

The Montello name refers to the winning of:

Campione
Olimpico
Campione
d'italia
1984

At the least that is what the decal says on the downtube.

I am querious as to why the forks are not plated.


Regards,
J T

Complete with the amazing Pinarello disappearing decals...

I'm guessing it is an '85ish Record. Mostly because it looks exactly like the one hanging in my garage. Look on Bulgier.net, at the pinarello catalog for '85, and look near the end of the book, like page 9. The Record was a full SL frameset that was sold only as a frameset. more pics would help, especially of the bottom bracket area.

A major score, btw. You'll love the ride and handling.

oops- was concentrating more on the dating based on the rear hanger pic than thinking about the model-not that it matters much since i completely missed the front braze-on SR derailleur in the first pic(1980/81 would have been the earliest for the braze-on feature to appear)-Anyway,... iirc Record Special/Record Equipe was what the top end SL frameset was called at the time.

how long did pinarello continue using the campy portacatena dropout after being phased out?


addendum- going back to the components and assuming the derailleurs,etc are original as the OP stated, that SR black armed front is of 1982 or later vintage. However the shift levers are of the more elaborate record style which was phased out earlier that same year.When the revised lever was introduced I recall that most diehard campyheads seemed to think the newer style was either ugly or at least a step backward aesthetically and the remaining inventories of the old style were snatched up very quickly. Also, It's very conceivable that the portacatena rear hangers were stockpiled by pinarello and used for some time after their discontinuation. Based on these details, I'm going to revise my year of manufacture estimate to 1983 but probably not much later than that.

Hey Luker, here are some more pickies as you requested. A Record SL eh? Hope so. It sure rides like perfection (only held back by the lard on the saddle...). Cheers.

Thanks Caterham. You sure know your stuff.

hi jeff,

did you check for a date code on the crankarms? that would help pinpoint it.

best,
k

I don't see why you think that there is any connection between the name Montello and that decal. The Montello is named after the mountains near the town Pinarellos are built in, and amost all models had that decal in the mid-80's.

Not the same style fork as on mine and other Montello's. If there is any chrome on the fork the entire fork most likely is plated. Like I said above due to the external brake cable it probably isn't a Montello.

Bridge between the chainstays says it is definately something other than a Montello.

Caterham,
I checked the crank arms and all I could find was "strada 170 1" with the 1 in a circle.

the number 1 within a circle is said to indicate 1981 as the year of production for your crankset.

If the bike was originally sold complete, then nearly all the indicators would appear to narrow your bikes age to approx. late 1981 or 1982 .

Thanks Caterham. I bow to your knowledge - and detective skills! Maybe one day I'll be fortunate enough to see a 1982 Pinarello catalogue with my bike/frame in it. Fingers crossed.

i betcha the crankarm you read was the right hand arm because the left arm says 170 STRADA 2

???

At least deserves an honorable mention for the oddest thread resurrection award.

Trevisos had the bridge but mine from 1984 has the pantographed sloping shoulders fork.





But mine doesn't have the full chrome treatment and the dropouts are different

Weird. First I thought you must have been looking in my garage. There were no pics of the inside LH crankarm in the post.

Then I checked the actual arm - FYI it says 170 Strada 1.

Now I'm really confused.

Whatever year, nice bike.
I don't know what exact year mine is, either.