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Old 12-31-07 | 06:06 AM
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Pieces of Art

I once asked my Mom if she’d like to have something I made myself, by hand, a work of art, to hang on the wall.
She said yes.

I brought it along for her this christmas.

THIS is how it looks like:



She says she likes it.

Did I do wrong?
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Old 12-31-07 | 06:20 AM
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That's sad. It made me cry.

... and the brake levers don't match
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Old 12-31-07 | 07:22 AM
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I think it'd look prettier if it were assembled and ridden.
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Old 12-31-07 | 07:26 AM
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I think it'd look prettier if it were assembled and ridden.
Yes indeed it would.
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Old 12-31-07 | 07:45 AM
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That's why it's sad.
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Old 12-31-07 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacey
That's sad. It made me cry.
You seem to have a good sense of humour!

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... and the brake levers don't match
And pedantic at that? Oh no ...

This very special "oeuvre" is - inter alia - meant to serve as a demonstration piece, in this case it can show how "crazy" [now] vintage bike manufacturers could be, e.g. not loosing weight despite drilling holes into brake levers, as Campagnolo did for Super Record (follow the link in the OP and learn that this brake lever combination was chosen intentionally. I could have easily taken another pair of those NOS world logo hooded Record levers, but could that have unveiled this phenomenon?).

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I think it'd look prettier if it were assembled and ridden.
This one is NOT meant to be ridden, as it is NEW and will lose most of it's value if degraded by being ridden (yes, see it as kind of a collector's item - just try to find a NOS 1979 Team Professional!).

I myself have another one of those Raleighs to ride (alongside a fleet of other thoroughbreds, no need for still another one to be built).

As everyone can see this is NO bike, just don't look at it as one!

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Old 12-31-07 | 08:36 AM
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I think it's Great!

Plenty of completely built up bikes which never see the road.

So, why not create a source of inspiration like this, too.
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Old 12-31-07 | 08:50 AM
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Well if you're going to do that, let me offer some criticism as an artist. The zip ties make it look like it's inside a cardboard Mattel box, waiting to be ridden by the likes of Ken or Barbie. It would be massively heavy, but a fitted display made out of wood would do it justice.
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Old 12-31-07 | 10:52 AM
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ah...you've succeeded as an artist. controversy is yours, thought-provoking to the point of making people cry. you da man. hang it where the world can see it.
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Old 12-31-07 | 11:06 AM
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ah...you've succeeded as an artist. controversy is yours, thought-provoking to the point of making people cry. you da man. hang it where the world can see it.
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What are the yellow discs in the baggie above the shifters? bar end caps/plugs and very tiny strips of bar tape?

Where are the cables? Can't re-assemble and go for a spin without those. Not to mention spokes and nipples.

Anyhow, nice idea for those that love garage sculpture!
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What are the yellow discs in the baggie above the shifters? bar end caps/plugs and very tiny strips of bar tape? . . .
Yellow handlebar tape and end caps. . .

So, Cool Steel does that Reynolds sticker say 753 or is it a 531 variant?

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Old 12-31-07 | 11:43 AM
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I have to agree about the zip ties. A shadowbox would be nice, and get rid of the seam running down the middle.

It could be a splendid piece of art.

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Old 12-31-07 | 11:53 AM
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I think if you assemble it and then hang it on a wall that would look much cleaner, but it is sweet.

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Old 12-31-07 | 01:18 PM
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It's sorta cool. I still think I'd rather see it built and hung for display.
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Old 12-31-07 | 01:26 PM
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Take some time with photoshop and remove the seam and the zip ties. Got yourself a killer desktop.
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Take some time with photoshop and remove the seam and the zip ties. Got yourself a killer desktop.
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Old 12-31-07 | 02:10 PM
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hang it all from strings and use it as a wind chime
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Old 12-31-07 | 02:27 PM
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Here is a quick and dirty version of what I suggested.

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Old 12-31-07 | 03:25 PM
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But what about spokes? Cables? Housing?
Spokes? We don't need no steenking spokes!
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Old 12-31-07 | 04:40 PM
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But what about spokes? Cables? Housing?
And dropout micro-adjusters. Those are missing too.

A cool display idea. Not often you see a frame and parts in new condition that are not put together.

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Old 12-31-07 | 04:51 PM
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Now that's art.
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Old 01-01-08 | 06:32 AM
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... Happy New Year to everyone!

Originally Posted by Rammer
Where are the cables? Can't re-assemble and go for a spin without those. Not to mention spokes and nipples.
Originally Posted by el twe
But what about spokes? Cables? Housing?
While setting this up we decided to keep the less decorative parts off the display.
Cables & Housings, Chain, Spokes & nipples, Tires & tubes weren't that appealing that we had to present them along with the other parts. They reside in the cupboard below the display.
Do you find them so attractive that you'd insist on adding 'em?

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Spokes? We don't need no steenking spokes!
What I said!

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It would be massively heavy, but a fitted display made out of wood would do it justice.
It wouldn't only be massively heavy, any transfer would be ruled out. The complete display measures 176 cm x 110 cm - it would be virtually impossible to move or store. And it probably will be transported (or put away) someday.

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I have to agree about the zip ties. A shadowbox would be nice, and get rid of the seam running down the middle.
I didn't notice that the seam was so noticable until I came home and saw the pictures on the computer.
I'll adress those problems when I come back there, thanx for pointing out East Hill.

A shadowbox or anything similar would certainly let the costs explode. We had to keep this joke practical (pun intended) and it wasn't really cheap so far - medium density fiberboard, taffeta fabrics, brass hooks etc. - and took a lot of effort anyway. [Not to mention buying the frame, accumulating the correct parts and bringing everything to showroom condition.]

Originally Posted by CV-6
Here is a quick and dirty version of what I suggested.
WOW, great work CV-6. Looks very clean, I'm impressed!

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So, Cool Steel does that Reynolds sticker say 753 or is it a 531 variant?
You will have noticed that this is a tall frame, it's a 24.5" = 62.2 cm size. I try to not buy anything smaller than 62 cm, 63 cm are perfect.
To my best knowledge Raleigh 753 frames weren't available in my size, they stopped at 61cm, so this cannot be 753.
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And dropout micro-adjusters. Those are missing too.
No, they're not - you'll find them where they belong when a frame is delivered to the dealer: they are in that small paper bag that sticks to the rear brake bridge (see picture below).
As I said, the frame is new!



... and last ...
... All The Best for the new year to all of you - stay safe, whatever you do!

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Old 01-01-08 | 07:19 AM
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I have a fondness for Raleighs, but I have to say that the Team Pro is probably the bike I like the least, among the "famous" ones. It looks like it was designed by marketing people for people who are in the thrall of marketing people. So, sour grapes.

A bicycle in parts is much less satisfying to the soul than one assembled; maybe that's provoking, but it's like looking at pieces of a Calder mobile -- is one in pieces art, or not? I think not.

And +1 on all the others' "presentation" criticisms -- esp. the zip ties and joint in the middle.

I'm no Campagnolo expert, but does the NR seatpost belong with the SR crank and RD? Surely a group like this would have had Binda straps, not Christophe!
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