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Lanky Lass
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. It's a beautiful sparkly green, although it doesn't look as if I'm going to have any sun for a couple of days so that I can catch it just right.
East Hill
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#27
Witcomb UK? Masi? Eisentraut?
Whatever it is it's 1978-1983, but I'll put a friendly bet on '79-'81.
Whatever it is it's 1978-1983, but I'll put a friendly bet on '79-'81.
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#28
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From: Take a deep breath, and ask--What would Sheldon do?
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Nope, none of those. It is a definite 1977.
East Hill
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#29
i wouldn't bet against you! this sure is a sloooow striptease, but I like it, nonetheless
Old style Cinelli IC BB shell, Campy short DOs with porta catena holes, Campy NR componnents...are you really implying that this was a GIFT? nice....very nice...
Old style Cinelli IC BB shell, Campy short DOs with porta catena holes, Campy NR componnents...are you really implying that this was a GIFT? nice....very nice...
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A very kind and generous giver indeed. As someone who's starting to put a N.Record group together himself I'll admit I'm a bit green with envy. Maybe not quite the color of the bike, but still.
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#32
Very likely could be a 1977, but I am not sure porta catena was introed that early I thought it was a 1978 or 79 thing? BB could be old stock. The parts that are Id'able are post CPSC namely the brakes and nuovo gran sport front derailleur which makes those parts '78 or later. Now typically you really need a pre CPSC derailleu to go with the pre CPSC cranks as the lip will hit in inside of the crank arm in order to get the chain on the big ring. so I am guessing the crank is '78 or later. Are you sure it's a '77 east hill?
Can't see the date code on the derailleur but it has post CPSC plastic guards on it, so even if it is coded earlyier it was more than likely assembled in 78 or later at the factory.
Can't see the date code on the derailleur but it has post CPSC plastic guards on it, so even if it is coded earlyier it was more than likely assembled in 78 or later at the factory.
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Frame was probably built 77, parts purchased and built up in 78?
EH - you know you're going to have to repeat this process when you get it cleaned up, right?
EH - you know you're going to have to repeat this process when you get it cleaned up, right?
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According to CampyOnly (which of course is NOT gospel) the Porta Catena was introduced in '79... that's pretty strong evidence for a post 78 production of the frame.
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#36
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From: Take a deep breath, and ask--What would Sheldon do?
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Very likely could be a 1977, but I am not sure porta catena was introed that early I thought it was a 1978 or 79 thing? BB could be old stock. The parts that are Id'able are post CPSC namely the brakes and nuovo gran sport front derailleur which makes those parts '78 or later. Now typically you really need a pre CPSC derailleu to go with the pre CPSC cranks as the lip will hit in inside of the crank arm in order to get the chain on the big ring. so I am guessing the crank is '78 or later. Are you sure it's a '77 east hill?
Can't see the date code on the derailleur but it has post CPSC plastic guards on it, so even if it is coded earlyier it was more than likely assembled in 78 or later at the factory.
Can't see the date code on the derailleur but it has post CPSC plastic guards on it, so even if it is coded earlyier it was more than likely assembled in 78 or later at the factory.
I was told that it is a 1977. I should be able to verify that with the builder.
East Hill
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AH HA! (think of George Costanza busting into the stall in the women's bathroom when he is dating a women he suspects is bulimic)
Okay we have Rodrigez (sp?) or a Santana... what other Washington builders are there?
Okay we have Rodrigez (sp?) or a Santana... what other Washington builders are there?
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EH: Give us the story please you are killin me with this tease
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(Life is too short to play crappy guitars) 2006 Raleigh Cadent 3.0, 1977 Schwinn Volare, 2010 Windsor tourist. ( I didn't fall , I attacked the floor)
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From: Take a deep breath, and ask--What would Sheldon do?
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I am glad everyone is enjoying the suspense
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Yes, I could possibly name the bike solveg.
It's not from bbm.
It's not a Washington State builder.
I can't reveal the full story until I have everyone's attention
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Trust me, it's worth the wait.
East Hill
.Yes, I could possibly name the bike solveg.
It's not from bbm.
It's not a Washington State builder.
I can't reveal the full story until I have everyone's attention
.Trust me, it's worth the wait.
East Hill
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#43
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Oh, and solveg, you can go shopping. I have to go to bed soon, and I will continue around 6.00 pm PST .
East Hill
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It has to be something that made someone think strongly of East Hill. I know I'm always on the hunt for a teeny paramount for her.
The letters on the top of the box look like they say TOU.
One thing in favor of it being a Washington builder is that the box doesn't look like it traveled too far.
Edit: D'OH! All that brainwork and I was too slow posting!
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No! You are going to hold out on us, but you said this bike is too big for you!? what gives. Are you a mystery novelist. You're good at building suspense.
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From: Take a deep breath, and ask--What would Sheldon do?
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Well, it doesn't have to be a Washington builder. In fact, it probably is not* a Washington builder, since it was shipped. It would have been cheaper to hand it to EH in person.
It has to be something that made someone think strongly of East Hill. I know I'm always on the hunt for a teeny paramount for her.
The letters on the top of the box look like they say TOU.
One thing in favor of it being a Washington builder is that the box doesn't look like it traveled too far.
Edit: D'OH! All that brainwork and I was too slow posting!
It has to be something that made someone think strongly of East Hill. I know I'm always on the hunt for a teeny paramount for her.
The letters on the top of the box look like they say TOU.
One thing in favor of it being a Washington builder is that the box doesn't look like it traveled too far.
Edit: D'OH! All that brainwork and I was too slow posting!
.TOU does not mean anything.
The bike travelled almost clear across the country. I was amazed that there was not a single ding or dent on the box when it arrived. It was almost as if the box got handled with velvet gloves
.East Hill
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#47
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I am not a mystery novelist, but this is such a wonderful story that I think everyone will enjoy the buildup.
East Hill
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Shipped UPS!
I'm giving all of you the first glimpse of the story!
East Hill
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