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Old 02-20-08 | 10:33 PM
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help me id a frameset?

Lugged steel. Columbus tubeset (don't know which type). Columbus fork legs with cast fork crown (also Columbus with dove logo on crown). Cinelli bottom bracket. Campy dropouts front and rear. only the dropouts are chromed, not entire frame. Orange original paint. 1" threaded headtube and 27.2 post. braze ons: top tube brake cable, down tube shifter bosses, chain holder, water bottle. no front der. braze on. really nice lugs throughout. 57cm. has a Seoul '88 sticker on the non drive side chainstay. i have no idea who the maker is, but would appreciate any ideas. thanks.

pics at https://flickr.com/photos/gyeswho/2260937269/
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Old 02-21-08 | 08:07 AM
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Bumped for the ID experts to see.
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Old 02-22-08 | 08:44 AM
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I am far from an expert but from your pictures I believe that the frameset is Italian in manufacture. This is based on the lugs and the European parts. Although, the Shimano cups are throwing me into thinking it could be a very good Japanese frame copy. Hope someone else can give a better analysis, cause I sure am interested who really did manufacture this frameset.
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Old 02-25-08 | 08:32 AM
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high end japanese crossed my mind as well.

could it be the centurion/cinelli collaboration that sheldon brown has mentioned? the build quality is really good in person. i removed the fork last night to see if there was any info on the steer tube...nothing. thanks for the replies.
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