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Sorry, I haven't seen that particular serial number format. It could be reverse engineered several ways. Based on all the Asian characters, it's almost certainly a non-American model, so I'd be hard pressed to identify it. Pictures of the major components may help to narrow down the year. Also, the major components may have date codes which you may be able to decypher using the information on the components page of the Vintage-Trek website.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 18996120)
Sorry, I haven't seen that particular serial number format. It could be reverse engineered several ways. Based on all the Asian characters, it's almost certainly a non-American model, so I'd be hard pressed to identify it. Pictures of the major components may help to narrow down the year. Also, the major components may have date codes which you may be able to decypher using the information on the components page of the Vintage-Trek website.
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[QUOTE=fabricioplato;18996212]Thank you very much. Unfortunatley i have only the frame and fork, the other components were changed by the uncle of the old owner.. i'm from brazil and i have no ideia how this bike arrived here.[/QUOTE**
There's one other thing that you can do. Tange typically date codes the steerer column on their forks. The format is year-month, so if you found 3A, it would be 1993 January. The date code would typically be within a year of the model year of the bicycle. Of course, you'll have to remove the fork to get this information. it will at least give you the timeframe, but I don't have any information on Brazilian market models, which could be significantly different than America. |
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Originally Posted by fabricioplato
(Post 18996212)
Thank you very much. Unfortunatley i have only the frame and fork, the other components were changed by the uncle of the old owner.. i'm from brazil and i have no ideia how this bike arrived here.[/QUOTE**
There's one other thing that you can do. Tange typically date codes the steerer column on their forks. The format is year-month, so if you found 3A, it would be 1993 January. The date code would typically be within a year of the model year of the bicycle. Of course, you'll have to remove the fork to get this information. it will at least give you the timeframe, but I don't have any information on Brazilian market models, which could be significantly different than America. I removed the fork, and i think it is "93 E" http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...pspo7qtt8r.jpg http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...psqnex22fp.jpg http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...psacretddi.jpg |
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 18996263)
It's awesome how much you know about this! I removed the fork, and i think it is "93 E" |
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Originally Posted by fabricioplato
(Post 18997279)
I didn't realize that Tange had changed their format to yy.m,but that is what it appears to be. Your frame could be either a 1993 or 1994 and there's a possibility that the C10 in the S/N indicates 1993 October. Of course, this assumes the fork is OEM. There's always a possibility of it being a replacement, given that it's chrome but the date code fits with the original estimate and some Nishiki road bicycles were spec'd with chrome forks in the early 1990s, so I'm assuming it is OEM. http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...pskvs0w90s.jpg http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...psqx6qpq4n.jpg http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1eplhrtk.jpg http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...pssmarb3yv.jpg http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...psok84yx0g.jpg |
New old Nishiki Custom Sport
I just purchased a beautiful Nishiki Custom Sport. The serial number in the bottom of the crank is S1 2B343. I think that its a 1972 model. It has centerpull brakes with Shimano 600 Arabesque derailleurs front and rear. Stem mounted shifters. Its a ten speed with 27 wheels. I believe the color is crimson red. Its heavy but rides beautifully. The foam grips are worn and torn and the front derailleur isn't shifting but I'll fix that. Doesn't have the original seat or tires, but it does have what I believe is the original rear rack, or at least a rear rack from that time period.
I read that the serial number beginning with S1 designates that it was made before 1975. And that the 2 is the year, B is maybe for February, and its the 343rd bicycle made that year. I have pictures on my phone, I'll try to post at a later date. :lol: |
Originally Posted by Cyclegraph
(Post 19000895)
I just purchased a beautiful Nishiki Custom Sport. The serial number in the bottom of the crank is S1 2B343. I think that its a 1972 model. It has centerpull brakes with Shimano 600 Arabesque derailleurs front and rear. Stem mounted shifters. Its a ten speed with 27 wheels. I believe the color is crimson red. Its heavy but rides beautifully. The foam grips are worn and torn and the front derailleur isn't shifting but I'll fix that. Doesn't have the original seat or tires, but it does have what I believe is the original rear rack, or at least a rear rack from that time period.
I read that the serial number beginning with S1 designates that it was made before 1975. And that the 2 is the year, B is maybe for February, and its the 343rd bicycle made that year. I have pictures on my phone, I'll try to post at a later date. :lol: |
Great! Thank you. I'm good with 1982. It's a great bike. I wasn't sure if I was reading the serial number right. I am not going to lie- I was hoping that you would say that I had a very rare S1 model. This is my second Nishiki. I had a newer Century sport. That too, was a great riding bike, but it was a little large for me so I sold it. I don't think that I will be selling this Custom Sport for a long time. Thanks for the info and thanks for this forum-its nice to know what you have.
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[QUOTE=T-Mar;18998085]
Originally Posted by fabricioplato
(Post 18997279)
I didn't realize that Tange had changed their format to yy.m,but that is what it appears to be. Your frame could be either a 1993 or 1994 and there's a possibility that the C10 in the S/N indicates 1993 October. Of course, this assumes the fork is OEM. There's always a possibility of it being a replacement, given that it's chrome but the date code fits with the original estimate and some Nishiki road bicycles were spec'd with chrome forks in the early 1990s, so I'm assuming it is OEM. http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...psmkf59pss.jpg and the year matches, 1993. Do you know if it is possible to see informations about this register number - 93 77026 - somewhere? |
Help in fining bike history/manufacture
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I bought this Nishiki bike a couple months ago for $10. I needed to replace the tires and wash it up a bit, but since then I've ridden at a few hundred miles. Great bike for the price, but I would like to know more about it. More photos upon request.
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Originally Posted by Father_Francis
(Post 19007856)
I bought this Nishiki bike a couple months ago for $10. I needed to replace the tires and wash it up a bit, but since then I've ridden at a few hundred miles. Great bike for the price, but I would like to know more about it...
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 19008143)
The subject bicycle was manufactured by Giant of Taiwan in may 1984. The frame is plain gauge chromium-molybdenum main tubes mated to hi-tensile stays and forks. This, in conjunction SunTour (AR?) rear derailleur with claw and Sugino No. 5 crankset indicates an entry level model. It's lower than the 1984 Custom Sport, so it may be a Sport.
Though it may not be a top notch racer, I believe it's worth tearing down this winter and going over. I'm happy with the $36.00 I've got into it. Bought for $10 and $26 for new tires, tubes and rim liners off ebay. |
So. What Nishikis made in the late 70's or early eighties had solid maroon paint, centerpull brakes, long cage derailleur, and a chrome fork crown. I am trying to figure out if one is worth driving over hill and dale to go get? These are the only two pictures, and they're tiny. Sorry.,,,,BD
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I guess it could be earlier, since it seems Nishiki was pretty early with their braze on top tube guides?,,,,BD
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 18712620)
The seat tube has the banding which appears to have been introduced for the 1975 model year, so it may be a 1975 model manufactured in late 1974. I've never seen a black version of the VGT. It looks there is exposed white aluminum. If this was factory anodized I wouldn't these sort of marks. Any evidence of them having been painted by a previous owner? It also would be appreciated if you could supply the date codes from the derailleurs and cranks. TIA.
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Originally Posted by Bikedued
(Post 19011974)
So. What Nishikis made in the late 70's or early eighties had solid maroon paint, centerpull brakes, long cage derailleur, and a chrome fork crown. I am trying to figure out if one is worth driving over hill and dale to go get? These are the only two pictures, and they're tiny. Sorry.,,,,BD
http://images.craigslist.org/00e0e_9...0_1200x900.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/00z0z_f...5_1200x900.jpg |
Thank you to T-Mar and all who have contributed to this thread. I've got an old Nishiki Sport that my dad bought new decades ago (my mom had a matching one, but it's not in the family anymore). The post I quoted below leads me to believe I have a Giant-made 1977 Sport model.
Serial is G779818 Date code is G777 "Sport" decal is on the top tube near where it meets the headtube 27" wheels (aluminum? no corrosion except on the nipples) Suntour everything; derailleurs, stem-mounted friction shifters; chainrings (52/40) all have it stamped on 2x5 speeds And it's got the same paint job, decal lettering color and fonts, etc as the bicycle referred to in the quote below. Feel free to correct me if I'm off anywhere. I just appreciate being able to find some information!
Originally Posted by Hummer
(Post 15082238)
Reply to old post #707
Hi Ikorpan, This is a Giant produced frame from 1977. Giant made the Sport model, but I don't know which other models they made in 1977. Possibly, the Rally model also. I have seen the odd serial number format on one other Nishiki, a Giant made 5-Speed model, also from 1977. You have made an interesting observation about the headbadge and the tri-colour flag. I have done some checking and it appears that the headbadge for Giant models did not have the tri-colour flag. Kuwamara and other contracted manufacturers had the eagle with the tri-colour flag. Thanks for that observation. |
Originally Posted by Zosu
(Post 19020227)
Thank you to T-Mar and all who have contributed to this thread. I've got an old Nishiki Sport that my dad bought new decades ago (my mom had a matching one, but it's not in the family anymore). The post I quoted below leads me to believe I have a Giant-made 1977 Sport model.
Serial is G779818 Date code is G777 "Sport" decal is on the top tube near where it meets the headtube 27" wheels (aluminum? no corrosion except on the nipples) Suntour everything; derailleurs, stem-mounted friction shifters; chainrings (52/40) all have it stamped on 2x5 speeds And it's got the same paint job, decal lettering color and fonts, etc as the bicycle referred to in the quote below. Feel free to correct me if I'm off anywhere. I just appreciate being able to find some information! |
Nishiki
I recently bought what is labelled as a Nishiki but haven't been able to identify it. The markings on the bike don't seem to match conventional serial numbers as they are DS 61 and 252129. I think I have been able to identify the derailleur as a SunTour Honor 1100 made in 1976 onwards. The shifters and derailleurs all have SunTour on them. The headset has KA60 on it and there are markings that say Japan. There is a sticker that says Made In Taiwan. Anyone have a guess?
Nishiki - Album on Imgur Thanks! |
Nishiki
I realize there is a Rally sticker on the top tube. Any info on a Nishiki Rally anyone can provide?
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Originally Posted by Coyote99
(Post 19030896)
I recently bought what is labelled as a Nishiki but haven't been able to identify it. The markings on the bike don't seem to match conventional serial numbers as they are DS 61 and 252129. I think I have been able to identify the derailleur as a SunTour Honor 1100 made in 1976 onwards. The shifters and derailleurs all have SunTour on them. The headset has KA60 on it and there are markings that say Japan. There is a sticker that says Made In Taiwan. Anyone have a guess?
Nishiki - Album on Imgur Thanks! The bicycle itself is not consistent with a USA market Nishiki Rally but we often find differences depending on the intended market and owners changes, which often happen with 30 year old bicycles. The bottom line is that I have no reason to believe it is not a 1987 Nishiki Rally, though it does not appear to be the USA market version. In 1987, the Rally was the bottom of the line model in the USA market and your bicycle is consistent with entry level for the era, despite discrepancies with the USA market version. |
Nishiki international serial code date
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This is my nishiki international, it has a serial number CD 13206. Can you identify its date of manufacturing?
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Originally Posted by Emile_FG
(Post 19031158)
This is my nishiki international, it has a serial number CD 13206. Can you identify its date of manufacturing?
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 19031172)
It was manufactured in 1984 for the Canadian market. It could be a 1984 model or a 1985 model manufactured in late 1984.
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