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Old 03-04-08 | 09:10 AM
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I'm a New Yorker and could snag this without shipping. If I have parts laying around is it worth picking this up to slap together a fixie? The chrome and the green are my kind of liking, but will I be disappointed with the quality of steel on this thing? If anyone knows this vintage I could use some pushing or pulling.
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Old 03-04-08 | 09:40 AM
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It's a nice frame, disappointed with Columbus tubing? It was top of the line in it's day.
The headset and BB on that bike are more than worth the current price.
I don't know what the seller is talking about with the red under the green, I've seen
chrome under a translucent colour (chromovelato) but this one is new to me.
for a fixied or a training bike for Kissena it's perfect.
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If that bike is your size, you should try to get it. Atala is an old Italian brand that was pretty high up on the totem pole, making great bikes. Columbus tubing is the best there is for Italian bikes and the chromed lugs are very pretty.

I had a chance to buy this earlier this yaer and I would have in an instant but it is too big for me. A forum member is selling it.
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Old 03-04-08 | 10:27 AM
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If that bike is your size, you should try to get it. Atala is an old Italian brand that was pretty high up on the totem pole, making great bikes. Columbus tubing is the best there is for Italian bikes and the chromed lugs are very pretty.
I wasn't sure if it was Columbus, but yeah that's a pretty huge addition to the pretty lugwork. I've seen some pretty junky modern Atalas but not so familiar with these older gems. Thanks for the advice. I'm 6'3" so this puppy should be just right if not a shade tall for my liking. We'll see how the bidding goes in the last few hours.
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Well my housemate and forum member Antipode is 6'5" and rarely sees a track frame that will fit him, he has been looking for a long time and will be bidding on this. I agree with matry about the headset except there is a huge piece of chrome flaked off the lower cup. There also looks like there could be a crack extending from the slot in the seatlug. sorry for he size, but it helps to scrutinize. Also I am about 6'3.5" and I just stand over my 62cm marinoni and run the seatpost near full extension. Track bikes have greater standover. if his measure of 63.5 standover is accurate I think I'd be crotched on this frame.

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Old 03-04-08 | 01:13 PM
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Well my housemate and forum member Antipode is 6'5" and rarely sees a track frame that will fit him, he has been looking for a long time and will be bidding on this.
Sounds like Antipode wants this more than I do. I'm not going to bid it up so I hope he wins it, 6'5"!? shooooh! - good luck!
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So, who here at BF won it? I know I didn't...
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I am 6'6" and know exactly how many big track frames or complete bikes come up on Ebay. Generally when I do see one I watch it at least. I have bid on many and even won some. One I bid and won the auction, but never got the bike (a Marinoni). Ebay was useless in helping too.

I would say be patient. Before I even had a track bike I never thought I would ever find one in my size much less at a price I could afford. Then one day a guy drives up to me and offers me two Schwinn Paramounts in my size (P13 road and a P14 track). I bought both and a bunch of parts for far less than they are worth. Then I found another on Ebay that was local and made an offer he couldn't refuse. Then added another (non-vintage) track frame/fork I built up, and then added another off of Ebay. My current track bike total is 4. The nice thing about being this size is they tend to go for much less than a smaller size would. One of my non-vintage track bikes is a GT GTB I bought for a little over $500 complete with shipping. I have watched smaller GTB frames/forks go for more than that.

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I am 6'6" and know exactly how many big track frames or complete bikes come up on Ebay. Generally when I do see one I watch it at least. I have bid on many and even won some. One I bid and won the auction, but never got the bike (a Marinoni). Ebay was useless in helping too.

I would say be patient. Before I even had a track bike I never thought I would ever find one in my size much less at a price I could afford. Then one day a guy drives up to me and offers me two Schwinn Paramounts in my size (P13 road and a P14 track). I bought both and a bunch of parts for far less than they are worth. Then I found another on Ebay that was local and made an offer he couldn't refuse. Then added another (non-vintage) track frame/fork I built up, and then added another off of Ebay. My current track bike total is 4. The nice thing about being this size is they tend to go for much less than a smaller size would. One of my non-vintage track bikes is a GT GTB I bought for a little over $500 complete with shipping. I have watched smaller GTB frames/forks go for more than that.

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I know that story, catch of a life time.... what marinoni was this? what size? what year? I got mine BIN off a total Jack***** who did a terrible job packing it and the brand new paint he had just paid for got all dinged up. I imagine he was mad about having to sell if after sinking money into the paint or something and wanted to pass on some of his grief. Total D!ck and gave me nothing. But at least I have a 1981 62 marinoni pista special which I put my hard earned record pista group on it (well filed down strada cranks and a sport headset with record top cup.. so more or less.
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I know that story, catch of a life time.... what marinoni was this? what size? what year? I got mine BIN off a total Jack***** who did a terrible job packing it and the brand new paint he had just paid for got all dinged up. I imagine he was mad about having to sell if after sinking money into the paint or something and wanted to pass on some of his grief. Total D!ck and gave me nothing. But at least I have a 1981 62 marinoni pista special which I put my hard earned record pista group on it (well filed down strada cranks and a sport headset with record top cup.. so more or less.
I will say it was a catch of my life time. I have had a number of great catches in my relatively short 2 year vintage flipping/riding collection, but that is by far the best. I got two valuable and collectable bikes with the best part being they are my size. I still have the guys number and plan to call him up and bring both bikes back to show him they haven't went anywhere and I ride them. The parts I got paid for the bikes themselves. I have sold maybe 5 or 6 items from that stash and got more than I paid for everything.

The Marinoni was up for auction last summer (June/July I think) from NY. It was a mid/late 90's lugged steel that wasn't drilled for brakes. It included the original undrilled fork and another that was, and it was setup with a front brake as well. From the auction it said it was a custom build for the owner (6'5"), and I want to say it was blue. I thought I printed out the auction, but haven't been able to find what I did with it. After the auction ended I kept asking for a shipping total and never received a reply. Then I get an email that says, "I left the country, sorry no sale". I contacted Ebay about it, and sent a couple emails to the guy trying to see if we could work it out. I am guessing he just didn't like the price he got on Ebay (around $500 for the complete bike with two forks). Just before that one I bid on a GT team bike that was made from True Temper steel with nice parts on it (Mavic starfish crank, Dura Ace hubs, etc.), and lost that one. I was bummed I lost on the GT so I went after the Marinoni. I figured I had a track bike from the US and one from Italy so a Canadian/Italian would fit well into the collection.
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I will say it was a catch of my life time. I have had a number of great catches in my relatively short 2 year vintage flipping/riding collection, but that is by far the best. I got two valuable and collectable bikes with the best part being they are my size. I still have the guys number and plan to call him up and bring both bikes back to show him they haven't went anywhere and I ride them. The parts I got paid for the bikes themselves. I have sold maybe 5 or 6 items from that stash and got more than I paid for everything.

The Marinoni was up for auction last summer (June/July I think) from NY. It was a mid/late 90's lugged steel that wasn't drilled for brakes. It included the original undrilled fork and another that was, and it was setup with a front brake as well. From the auction it said it was a custom build for the owner (6'5"), and I want to say it was blue. I thought I printed out the auction, but haven't been able to find what I did with it. After the auction ended I kept asking for a shipping total and never received a reply. Then I get an email that says, "I left the country, sorry no sale". I contacted Ebay about it, and sent a couple emails to the guy trying to see if we could work it out. I am guessing he just didn't like the price he got on Ebay (around $500 for the complete bike with two forks). Just before that one I bid on a GT team bike that was made from True Temper steel with nice parts on it (Mavic starfish crank, Dura Ace hubs, etc.), and lost that one. I was bummed I lost on the GT so I went after the Marinoni. I figured I had a track bike from the US and one from Italy so a Canadian/Italian would fit well into the collection.
I think I know the bike and so does Antipodes, I watched... it was the only other Marinoni Pista in 62 I have seen... It was redone by argon 18 (it was blue) and had a new fork made for mounting the brake. Am I right? The only part of the story that doesn't jive is the guy didn't have the original fork. I know he didn't because I exchanged something like 5 emails with him as I was skeptical of his dating, but it turns out I think he was pretty close to the mark. He messaged me a few weeks ago asking if I knew where he could get a suitable fork or it to make it more original. I told him to contact Marinoni to see if they had old forks kicking around but that I thought it was unlikely and his best bet would be to have one custom made but that it would cost to much. I thought it was odd because I remembered watching the bike and seeing it sell.
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It ended at a pretty good price, despite the crackes seat-tube.

As redxj mentioned, GT GTBs have been selling like hotcakes on eBay lately, I guess a trend has started. They never used to come up but I have seen 6 in the last month, one in pristine condition ended the other day at $610 for just the frame/fork. It is a ridiculous price if you ask me, that is why I never follow trends (or at least try not to).
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I think I know the bike and so does Antipodes, I watched... it was the only other Marinoni Pista in 62 I have seen... It was redone by argon 18 (it was blue) and had a new fork made for mounting the brake. Am I right? The only part of the story that doesn't jive is the guy didn't have the original fork. I know he didn't because I exchanged something like 5 emails with him as I was skeptical of his dating, but it turns out I think he was pretty close to the mark. He messaged me a few weeks ago asking if I knew where he could get a suitable fork or it to make it more original. I told him to contact Marinoni to see if they had old forks kicking around but that I thought it was unlikely and his best bet would be to have one custom made but that it would cost to much. I thought it was odd because I remembered watching the bike and seeing it sell.
Yes, I do remember it, because like you said, it it is the only 62cm M. track we've seen - aside from yours of course! I was going to bid on it, but pulled out at the last minute. By the sound of what happened with the auction, I'm glad I didn't.
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