Best Classic & Vintage
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Bikes: 1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer, Peugeot PX10E
Best Classic & Vintage
This may have been asked before,
What are the Best Clasic and Vintage Bikes.
Best 5 bikes from 1960 thru 1970
Best 5 bikes from 1971 thru 1980
Best 5 bikes from 1981 thru 1990
What are the Best Clasic and Vintage Bikes.
Best 5 bikes from 1960 thru 1970
Best 5 bikes from 1971 thru 1980
Best 5 bikes from 1981 thru 1990
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1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
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+1
However, if all you are looking for is the highest current selling price, searching Ebay would get you a decent idea.
However, if all you are looking for is the highest current selling price, searching Ebay would get you a decent idea.
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Bikes: 1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer, Peugeot PX10E
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1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
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Well, in that case, based on my limited experience, the top bikes I own, by decade, that will probably stay in my stable as long as I can ride:
1955 Schwinn Corvette
1961 Schwinn Jaguar
1979 Schwinn LeTour IV
1986 Schwinn Voyqageur
1988/89 Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Master
1985/86 Ross Signature 292S
I also have a Motobecane Grand Sprint from the late 70's or early 80's (haven't dated it yet)...
The LeTour IV is not necessarily what I would call the cream of the crop, but it has sentimental value because one just like it was my first road bike.
I tend to like sport tourer geometry, and like having some bikes due to region of origin... Thus the Ross (Pennsylvania) and Motobecane (since I didn't have a European bike yet, I also have some French ancestry on my father's side)... I woulld still like to add a Washington state built Raleigh (where I was born and raised), and a Scandinavian bike (my ancestral heritage from my mother's side).
As can be seen by my list, I have no elite bikes, but I do like the quality of middle range and higher, just usually too cheap to get higher than the middle range.
1955 Schwinn Corvette
1961 Schwinn Jaguar
1979 Schwinn LeTour IV
1986 Schwinn Voyqageur
1988/89 Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Master
1985/86 Ross Signature 292S
I also have a Motobecane Grand Sprint from the late 70's or early 80's (haven't dated it yet)...
The LeTour IV is not necessarily what I would call the cream of the crop, but it has sentimental value because one just like it was my first road bike.
I tend to like sport tourer geometry, and like having some bikes due to region of origin... Thus the Ross (Pennsylvania) and Motobecane (since I didn't have a European bike yet, I also have some French ancestry on my father's side)... I woulld still like to add a Washington state built Raleigh (where I was born and raised), and a Scandinavian bike (my ancestral heritage from my mother's side).
As can be seen by my list, I have no elite bikes, but I do like the quality of middle range and higher, just usually too cheap to get higher than the middle range.
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I think if you changed it to: "would like to have", the discussion would get a lot livelier.
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Bikes: 1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer, Peugeot PX10E
I have been riding the same 72 Schwinn Sports Tourer for over 35 years. I will admit however that it is not original, Phil Wood BB and hubs, bar end shifters, eggbeaters....
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1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
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1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
1st bike - 1962 Schwinn Varsity (bought new and wish I still had it, left it in Siagon, Viet Nam 1965)
1962 Schwinn Varsity (could be a twin of my first bike)
1969 Peugeot PX10E
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer (bought new)
1982 Peugeot PH19 Mixte
1989 Novara Aspen
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Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs
60-70: Frejus track bike, Raleigh Professional (check), PX-10, Alex Singer tourer, Paramount (Disneyland logos)
71-80: Raleigh Team Pro, Confente, Masi GC, Gios Torino, Fuji Finest (check)
81-90: Colnago Master, Serotta (team 7-11), Klein, Trek 760 (check), Cinelli Super Corsa
71-80: Raleigh Team Pro, Confente, Masi GC, Gios Torino, Fuji Finest (check)
81-90: Colnago Master, Serotta (team 7-11), Klein, Trek 760 (check), Cinelli Super Corsa
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Bikes: March [B]'71 Schwinn Sports Tourer [/B] [B]
71-80 (Excluding the ultra-rare stratosphere level of Rene' or Singer, etc..)
Any bike built w/ a Shimano "333" 3 speed hub or "FFS" crankset up front
J.C. Penneys 10 speed delux
Free Spirit
Murray
Big K
Honorable mention to Roadmaster....
But if I couldn't find those, these are all realistic:
Gitane TdF or Super Corsa
Several of the Schwinn Paramount models
Peugeot PX-10 or several of the Follis models
Any of the pre-80 Trek's w/ Columbus or Reynolds
Raleigh- several of the Reynolds 531 models
Honorable mention and most underated: Several of the Motobecane models, Grand Record and Grand Touring
And I didn't even get to Italy.....which would be a big list....
This is really an infinite discussion
Any bike built w/ a Shimano "333" 3 speed hub or "FFS" crankset up front
J.C. Penneys 10 speed delux
Free Spirit
Murray
Big K
Honorable mention to Roadmaster....
But if I couldn't find those, these are all realistic:
Gitane TdF or Super Corsa
Several of the Schwinn Paramount models
Peugeot PX-10 or several of the Follis models
Any of the pre-80 Trek's w/ Columbus or Reynolds
Raleigh- several of the Reynolds 531 models
Honorable mention and most underated: Several of the Motobecane models, Grand Record and Grand Touring
And I didn't even get to Italy.....which would be a big list....
This is really an infinite discussion
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Bikes: 1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo (frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame), 1974 Peugeot UO-8
Yes, very subjective question. I'm often amused (and sadly I apparently offended someone once - sorry about that, it was not intended) when people argue over what constitutes the "best" or even the really good stuff or whether it's worth being absolutely original. I don't ride vintage bikes ultimately because of their quality or performance - even the very best is unlikely to compare well in most of those aspects to a modern bike because of advances in technology despite anything they say on the Rivendell site or CR list. I pick my vintage bikes because they remind me of days gone by, a carefree ride on a sunny day, and because I love the emphasis on style, the way they did the paint, the chrome, the decal schemes. And I choose bikes that I had or wished I had had back in the day. That leaves out most of the really high-end stuff. Straight gauge tubing and Valentino or Simplex drivetrains were what I could afford. Top of the line factory bikes like a Bottecchia or Raleigh Professional were the bikes I aspired to (until I got a drivers license. Then I wanted a Trans Am
). I never even heard of Masi's or Rene Herse's or Alex Singer's or the like back then so those don't interest me much today. Waaaay outta my price range then and now.
Interestingly I'm quite happy with my Bottecchia Giro d'Italia. It was second in their model line-up and I find the mix of vintage components more interesting then an all Nuovo Record bike as well as allowing me more wiggle room to modify it to my personal taste so I have not sought to upgrade it to a Professional model even though the frame is the same.
My list of vintage bikes I would like is:
late 80's Bottecchia Record/SLX
early 70's blue Bottecchia Special
early 70's Peugeot PX-10
1950's Bottecchia or similar Italian (Atala, Bianchi, etc) road bike
So there, those are the "best" C&V bikes.
If you know the whereabouts of any, let me know.
). I never even heard of Masi's or Rene Herse's or Alex Singer's or the like back then so those don't interest me much today. Waaaay outta my price range then and now.Interestingly I'm quite happy with my Bottecchia Giro d'Italia. It was second in their model line-up and I find the mix of vintage components more interesting then an all Nuovo Record bike as well as allowing me more wiggle room to modify it to my personal taste so I have not sought to upgrade it to a Professional model even though the frame is the same.
My list of vintage bikes I would like is:
late 80's Bottecchia Record/SLX
early 70's blue Bottecchia Special
early 70's Peugeot PX-10
1950's Bottecchia or similar Italian (Atala, Bianchi, etc) road bike
So there, those are the "best" C&V bikes.
If you know the whereabouts of any, let me know.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
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.....I don't ride vintage bikes ultimately because of their quality or performance - even the very best is unlikely to compare well in most of those aspects to a modern bike because of advances in technology despite anything they say on the Rivendell site or CR list. I pick my vintage bikes because they remind me of days gone by, a carefree ride on a sunny day, and because I love the emphasis on style, the way they did the paint, the chrome, the decal schemes. And I choose bikes that I had or wished I had had back in the day. That leaves out most of the really high-end stuff.
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Note that I didn't say I'd want to pay for the stuff on my list. The ones I did manage to get were all by some unusual circumstance. I'm happy with the nine I have now.
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From: Lost on the windswept plains of the Great Black Swamp
One persons Holy grail is another persons gas pipe clunker. 
Not looking, don't need em...I'm set.. But,
'60-'70,
Peugeot UE-8
Olmo or Atala, (to keep the Bottecchia company)
'70-'80
Raleigh pro
PX-10 or PR-10
A Motobecane or Gitane in Reynolds or Vitus.
a Falcon Merckx in Moltini orange.
'80 on.
To get my PSV-10 un-dented and re-painted.
a 7-11 Merckx

Not looking, don't need em...I'm set.. But,
'60-'70,
Peugeot UE-8
Olmo or Atala, (to keep the Bottecchia company)
'70-'80
Raleigh pro
PX-10 or PR-10
A Motobecane or Gitane in Reynolds or Vitus.
a Falcon Merckx in Moltini orange.
'80 on.
To get my PSV-10 un-dented and re-painted.
a 7-11 Merckx
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
Early 1960s: If you can't find a Capo Modell Campagnolo or Sieger, you can always settle for a Bianchi Specialissima. 
Early 1970s: The (white, please) PX-10s of that era look good, with either plain or fancy lugs, as do the Schwinn Paramounts and Raleigh Pros.
Early 1980s: Any Bianchi from the Reparto Corse shop, preferably in the proper color, unlike mine.

Early 1970s: The (white, please) PX-10s of that era look good, with either plain or fancy lugs, as do the Schwinn Paramounts and Raleigh Pros.
Early 1980s: Any Bianchi from the Reparto Corse shop, preferably in the proper color, unlike mine.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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From: Wilmette, IL
The 60's
The only bikes I remember from the 60's are Raleighs and Schwinns
The bikes I remember most from the 70's;
Colnogo - in orange
Bob Jackson
Jack Taylor
RRB
Cinelli
Eisentraut
Gios Torino
Oddball Stuff;
Teledyne Titan
Graftek
Pino Moroni
In the 80's everything shifted to Japan
I have a Japaneese Raleigh - Superbe 1979.
So-so bike that I cant get rid of because it was my last racing bike. Still straight and true after many spills.
The only bikes I remember from the 60's are Raleighs and Schwinns
The bikes I remember most from the 70's;
Colnogo - in orange
Bob Jackson
Jack Taylor
RRB
Cinelli
Eisentraut
Gios Torino
Oddball Stuff;
Teledyne Titan
Graftek
Pino Moroni
In the 80's everything shifted to Japan
I have a Japaneese Raleigh - Superbe 1979.
So-so bike that I cant get rid of because it was my last racing bike. Still straight and true after many spills.
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From: Hervey Bay, Qld, Australia.
Bikes: Colnago (82, 85, 89, 90, 91, 96, 03), 85 Cinelli, 90 Rossin, 83 Alan, 82 Bianchi, 78 Fountain, 2 x Pinarello, Malvern Star (37), Hillman (70's), 80's Beretto Lo-Pro Track, 80's Kenevans Lo-Pro, Columbus Max (95), DeGrandi (80's) Track.
60's
DeRosa - Merckx
Bianchi Specialisma
Cinelli track
Raleigh
70's
Colnago - Merckx
Cinelli Supercorsa
ALAN
Bianchi Specialisma
Raleigh team pro - (yellow/red/black)
80's
Cannondale
Colnago Master
Gitane
Bottecchia
Colnago Super - Saronni
DeRosa - Merckx
Bianchi Specialisma
Cinelli track
Raleigh
70's
Colnago - Merckx
Cinelli Supercorsa
ALAN
Bianchi Specialisma
Raleigh team pro - (yellow/red/black)
80's
Cannondale
Colnago Master
Gitane
Bottecchia
Colnago Super - Saronni
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From: boogled up in...Idaho!
Bikes: Crap. The box is not big enough...
50's: any bike with Fausto's butt imprints.
60's: any bike with Jaques' butt imprints. (Anquetil...)
70's: any bike with Eddie's butt imprints.
80's: any bike with Greg's butt imprints (call me Jingoistic...)
90's: Big Mig's butt imprints.
00's: ah, y'all can guess.
Geez, that was harder than I thought it would be.
60's: any bike with Jaques' butt imprints. (Anquetil...)
70's: any bike with Eddie's butt imprints.
80's: any bike with Greg's butt imprints (call me Jingoistic...)
90's: Big Mig's butt imprints.
00's: ah, y'all can guess.
Geez, that was harder than I thought it would be.
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From: Hervey Bay, Qld, Australia.
Bikes: Colnago (82, 85, 89, 90, 91, 96, 03), 85 Cinelli, 90 Rossin, 83 Alan, 82 Bianchi, 78 Fountain, 2 x Pinarello, Malvern Star (37), Hillman (70's), 80's Beretto Lo-Pro Track, 80's Kenevans Lo-Pro, Columbus Max (95), DeGrandi (80's) Track.
Nice work Luker.
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The best vintage bikes are the one's in my possession. The rest are crap.
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