building a 74 super course mk11?
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building a 74 super course mk11?
i continue to have problems finding a super course so i did locate a frame/fork for a 74 mark 11...
the guy turned it into a fixed gear so he has no parts with it..
do you guys think it would be really difficult to put this thing together? where would i begin to find parts? is there a vintage parts source anybody could recommend? and of course, if you know of a "complete" super course, peugeot, etc., please let me know..
thanks all:
the guy turned it into a fixed gear so he has no parts with it..
do you guys think it would be really difficult to put this thing together? where would i begin to find parts? is there a vintage parts source anybody could recommend? and of course, if you know of a "complete" super course, peugeot, etc., please let me know..
thanks all:
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If you are going to build a Super Course from a frame set, the Mk 2 is a good choice, everything on it should be standard thread. The very early Super Course that preceded the Mk2 had a Raleigh threaded bottom bracket and is slightly more difficult to work with.
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I have never failed to find a part I needed on eBay. If it's not there now, it will be in a week or two. All of the parts used on the Super Course Mk II are common and should be easy to find. If it was mine, I'd upgrade, but that's just me.
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I'd definitely use the Stronglight crank that came on it, but I would not use the Huret derailleurs. I would most likely use SunTour.
Mrs. K used to have a 74 S.C MkII. It was a nice bike. Someone had upgraded it to Mavic Module E rims with Hi-E hubs, Phil Wood pedals and bottom bracket, and a really nice set of Cinelli track bars (?). I have sold most of it off since she got her Paramount.
Mrs. K used to have a 74 S.C MkII. It was a nice bike. Someone had upgraded it to Mavic Module E rims with Hi-E hubs, Phil Wood pedals and bottom bracket, and a really nice set of Cinelli track bars (?). I have sold most of it off since she got her Paramount.
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1971 Paramount P-13 Chrome
1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
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Probably the easiest and quickest and cheapest way to get workable parts is to locate a suitable donor bicycle. In your case, if you can't find another Super Course, a 70's or 80's Japanese bicycle (preferrably with 120mm spacing at the rear hub), or possibly a 70's or 80's Schwinn with alloy components would be the easiest to find and least expensive.
I believe the Super Course MKII came with 27" wheels, so finding a bike with those, vice 700c wheels would make for less work.
If you find something you think might be suitable, ask questions here. If you're looking for something specific, post it in the iso/wtb thread that's in a sticky at the top of the threads here.
I believe the Super Course MKII came with 27" wheels, so finding a bike with those, vice 700c wheels would make for less work.
If you find something you think might be suitable, ask questions here. If you're looking for something specific, post it in the iso/wtb thread that's in a sticky at the top of the threads here.
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I've got one. It's pretty easy to put together a nice bike based on that frame. As someone pointed out above, the bottom bracket threading is standard, so there are no issues there (I put a Shimano cartridge unit in mine), and you can use pretty much whatever crank you like.
Rear spacing will limit you to a six-cog freewheel, which isn't such a big deal. I have a Sugino triple crank matched to a 14-28 freewheel, so that gives me a nice wide range.
Rabid Koala recommends not using a Huret derailleur, but I've got a Duopar in back that works just fine. The Suntour Cyclone is a nice piece, though. Up front I've got a Shimano Sora that works pretty well with the Sugino crank (although not perfectly -- it has a bit of trouble with the 48-36-24 chainrings. Any recommendations for a smoother-shifting unit?).
Brakes are the one area where you'll pretty much be stuck with the original bits. The necessary reach, especially in back, and most especially if you switch to 700C rims, is just more than you can get with any modern brake that I know of. I don't think it should present a problem, though. The Weinmann centerpulls work fine, especially with Kool Stop pads.
E-bay is always a good source for parts. Someone's suggestion above of finding a donor bike is a good one, or you could shop for the pieces you want if you have very specific component wants.
Rear spacing will limit you to a six-cog freewheel, which isn't such a big deal. I have a Sugino triple crank matched to a 14-28 freewheel, so that gives me a nice wide range.
Rabid Koala recommends not using a Huret derailleur, but I've got a Duopar in back that works just fine. The Suntour Cyclone is a nice piece, though. Up front I've got a Shimano Sora that works pretty well with the Sugino crank (although not perfectly -- it has a bit of trouble with the 48-36-24 chainrings. Any recommendations for a smoother-shifting unit?).
Brakes are the one area where you'll pretty much be stuck with the original bits. The necessary reach, especially in back, and most especially if you switch to 700C rims, is just more than you can get with any modern brake that I know of. I don't think it should present a problem, though. The Weinmann centerpulls work fine, especially with Kool Stop pads.
E-bay is always a good source for parts. Someone's suggestion above of finding a donor bike is a good one, or you could shop for the pieces you want if you have very specific component wants.
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Patience is indeed rewarded. When I bought Capo #2, I quickly decided I wanted to keep the original Agrati cottered crankset and Simplex 6-bolt adapters, but that I really wanted a pair of 6-bolt 157mm BCD alloy chainrings, preferably my all-time favorite 49-46 half-step combination. I found a NOS 49 and 47 together the next week on eBay, and a near-NOS 46 a couple of months later.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069





