Vintage Supercourse
#26
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Bikes: 2002 Bianchi Vigorelli, 2002 S-works CX, 1973 Raleigh Super Course conversion, 1979 Raleigh Competition, 1973 Raleigh Professional Track, 1980 Austro Daimler Inter-10
I have a '73 (I think?--block lettering, capella lugs) supercourse frame. It takes a 68mm English threaded BB (pretty standard--not the proprietary version). The length of the spindle will depend on your crank and the chainline you're after, but the spindle on mine is 113mm for a single ring up front and a fixed cog in the rear. This gives me roughly a 42mm chainline--not sure if this is what you're after with the Nexus hub in back, though.
I don't think there's any reason to spend that much money on a BB. This might be blasphemy but I've used the nashbar square taper BB with success (https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...tom%20Brackets)
They'll probably have a sale soon (as long as the sun comes up in the morning and goes down at night).
Unless you're looking for a BB that will outlast the life of the bike, this should work.
I don't think there's any reason to spend that much money on a BB. This might be blasphemy but I've used the nashbar square taper BB with success (https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...tom%20Brackets)
They'll probably have a sale soon (as long as the sun comes up in the morning and goes down at night).
Unless you're looking for a BB that will outlast the life of the bike, this should work.
#27
I have a Raleigh Carlton 78 Supercourse. My frame looks pretty much like yours except for the chrome on the fork. Mine is copper colored rather than green. I used a Shimano 122mm UN53. THe 122mm length gave me the correct chain line. NOS Shimano UN** BBs show up frequently on eBay for ~$20. I think Sheldon Brown's Web site has a discussion of using the Shimano BBs on vintage Raleighs.
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The frame arrived today and it looks like a 9.8 out of 10. A very small nick on the front fork, a couple of pin prick sized nicks on the top tube, and a slightly tired 531 decal spoil an otherwise mint frame. Now the interesting thing is, the lugs are not Capella. They are the later Supercourse II style lugs. I guess this frame was built at the end of the run of the standard Supercourse just before the arrival of the Mark II, making this frame to be a '74. It curiously has a Shimano shifter bracket and the brakes on it are Mafac Racers. I suspect this frame was in fact built up at one point using non stock parts.
I'll take pictures soon.
I'll take pictures soon.
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The frame arrived today and it looks like a 9.8 out of 10. A very small nick on the front fork, a couple of pin prick sized nicks on the top tube, and a slightly tired 531 decal spoil an otherwise mint frame. Now the interesting thing is, the lugs are not Capella. They are the later Supercourse II style lugs. I guess this frame was built at the end of the run of the standard Supercourse just before the arrival of the Mark II, making this frame to be a '74. It curiously has a Shimano shifter bracket and the brakes on it are Mafac Racers. I suspect this frame was in fact built up at one point using non stock parts.
I'll take pictures soon.
I'll take pictures soon.
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Bikes: Nothing special, but it works.
In building up this frame, I will probably need a bottom bracket. I'm assuming none exists on the frame now. Do any of you Raleigh experts recommend a bottom bracket brand? I've heard of Phil Wood and may get that but I am clueless about which size will work.
Thanks in advance..
Thanks in advance..
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As promised the pictures of this frame can be found here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/5860556...57604991958189
https://www.flickr.com/photos/5860556...57604991958189
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Update:
I just purchased an old TA crankset with chainrings of 54/42/28. I am inclined to use period correct components on this build and I would like to hear from other experts which front derailleur would be most suitable for this crank. I'm running a 6-speed freewheel with a first gen. Cyclone rear derailleur. Thanks in advance!
I just purchased an old TA crankset with chainrings of 54/42/28. I am inclined to use period correct components on this build and I would like to hear from other experts which front derailleur would be most suitable for this crank. I'm running a 6-speed freewheel with a first gen. Cyclone rear derailleur. Thanks in advance!
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If you have the matching first gen. Cyclone FD, I'd try it and see if the cage is long enough to handle that spread. Here's a thread that'll give some guidance, too: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/259246-suntour-cyclone-mk-ii-fd-capacity.html
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